Atomic Structure: "Long Range" and "Short Range" Translation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of "long range" and "short range" translation in atomic structure, particularly in the context of dislocation movement and slip systems in materials science. Participants explore the implications of these translations on atomic behavior and dislocation dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about "long range" and "short range" translations, recalling a connection to atomic slipping over closest packed planes and zig-zag movements in face-centered cubic structures.
  • Another participant suggests that the terms might relate to Burger's vectors, indicating a potential link to dislocation theory.
  • A third participant explains that slipping involves the motion of atomic planes and dislocations, detailing the concepts of glide and climb in dislocation movement.
  • Another viewpoint proposes that "short" and "long range" translations could be associated with stacking fault energies and dislocation behavior in different lattice structures, such as face-centered cubic and body-centered cubic metals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions or implications of "long range" and "short range" translations, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of "long range" and "short range" translations, as well as the specific contexts in which these terms apply. The discussion also highlights the complexity of dislocation dynamics and their dependence on material properties.

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Hi everyone
I missed some content in my lecture about atomic structure of atoms.
In the lecture, the lecturer talked something about "slipping" , "easy directions" and "slip systems"...I don't really catch these stuff in this lecture. But I could find these in textbook. What makes me most confusing is "long range" and "short range" translation. I just recall that they are something about how an atom slip over a closest packed plane, and the lecturer throw out some "short range" and "long range" and finally said that it is some "zig-zag" movement for face-centered-cubic indeed...
something like this...Is there anyone know what is the content? Can you explain to me?
Really many thanks!
 
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I'm not sure I recall anything about "long range/short range traslations". Are you perhaps speaking of Burger's vectors ?

This thread belongs in Materials Science.
 
Slipping has to do with the motion of planes of atoms with respect to one another. This invovles the motion of dislocations (defects) in the lattice.

There are point defects and line defects.

Dislocations can 'glide' and 'climb'. The gliding is in the direction of the planes of atoms. A dislocation may climb (move perpendicular to the initial atomic plane) over an obstacle, such as an interstial atom, and then proceed on a path parallel to the original path.

Zig-zagging probably refers to a combination of 'glide' and 'climb'.
 
Your short / long range might have to do with stacking fault energies and the resulting characteristics of dislocation movement in different kind of lattices ? For example when you compare partial dislocation behavior in typical fcc and bcc metals.
 

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