Assessing Chances at Six REU Programs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around participants sharing their experiences and insights regarding the competitiveness of various Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REUs) programs. The focus includes personal application experiences, academic qualifications, and the importance of recommendation letters, as well as the specific preferences of certain programs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks feedback on their chances of acceptance into six REU programs, providing details about their academic background and application materials.
  • Another participant shares their similar experience of applying to REUs and receiving rejections, suggesting that demographic factors may influence acceptance rates.
  • A participant emphasizes the critical role of letters of recommendation and personal statements in the application process, noting that many applicants are high-achieving students.
  • Concerns are raised about specific REU programs giving preference to students from their own institutions, which may affect the chances of applicants from other universities.
  • One participant discusses their double major in mathematics and economics and expresses hope that their relevant coursework in game theory will strengthen their application.
  • A later participant shares their acceptance into an REU, highlighting their academic performance and the importance of a strong statement of interest, while encouraging others not to lose hope.
  • Participants discuss the challenges faced by freshmen in gaining acceptance into REUs, with one noting that being ahead in coursework may have contributed to their success as a sophomore.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of experiences and opinions regarding the competitiveness of REU programs. While some share positive outcomes, others highlight the challenges and uncertainties in the application process, indicating that no consensus exists on the factors that guarantee acceptance.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the lack of clarity regarding the specific criteria used by different REU programs, including the potential preference for upperclassmen and the importance of aligning research interests with faculty projects.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering applying to REU programs, particularly those in mathematics, physics, and related fields, may find the shared experiences and insights relevant to their application strategies.

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Ok, now that I have applied to six (six!) REU's, I would basically like an objective look at my chances at these programs. Here are the schools I applied to:

Tennessee
Lafayette
Iowa State
Mount Holyoke
Rutgers
Clarkson (SUNY Potsdam)

Basically, I'd just like to know the relative competitiveness of these programs (I'm bracing myself for the worst). Here are my basic stats:

-Sophomore
-Currently in Analysis II and Complex Analysis after having taken Analysis I in the fall
-A's in all math classes
-I come from a small institution
-I wrote a pretty good personal statement (it was interesting, as opposed to dry and choppy, and opposed to only specifically answering the questions they ask)
-Letters of Rec from professors who taught me in Analysis and Calc3.

(Once again, I brace myself for the worst). Please offer as much criticism as you'd like.

Thanks again.
 
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I pretty much had the same application as you. All A's in math, taken plenty of adavanced math classes, and wrote a good essay. I got rejected by every REU. If there aren't that many minorities or women that applied to the REUs that you applied to, I would say you have a better chance of getting in. Basicallly you just have to hold your breath and hope.
 
A lot will probably hinge on the quality of your letters of recommendation. Almost everyone who applies to REUs are top students with high ambitions, so that essay and your letters of recommendation are often what make or break the application. Basically, don't let it discourage you if you don't get it. There are a lot of other ways to get research experiences, including contacting professors directly about summer employment in their labs. As a sophomore, you might have to suck it up a bit and just volunteer some time, but if you prove yourself, volunteering can often lead to a paid position the following summer or during the course of the school year.

Edit: I just looked up the Rutgers REU, being an alum of RU, to see what they're up to lately. Just so you're aware, they state that they give preference to current RU students in Jr and Sr years. I don't know if other programs similarly give preference to their own undergrads, but that might make it a bit tougher to get in if you're a sophomore coming from a school that doesn't offer such programs. Did you also look through the list of faculty and what they are doing to specify research interests that align with the faculty in the program? They also give preference to students who specifically state research interests that fit with the projects available. That's a really important one. I know from experience that taking in students without a specific interest in your research area can lead to frustration for everyone.
 
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Sorry Moonbear, I never saw your edit. That's interesting that you're an alum of RU. I didin't know that they give preference to current RU students. I can imagine preferring Jr. and Sr. (I anticipated this), but I thought that most programs were accepting of all universities.

I do indeed experess interest in the specific areas that are mentioned as research areas. I don't know how much you read of the programs, but a few of them concentrate on graph theory and some of its applications to game theory. Well, lucky me! I happen to be a double major at my university in mathematics and economics, and did some work in my intermediate microeconomics class on game theory. Do you think it was good that I mentioned this?

Thanks again for your help.
 
philosophking said:
Sorry Moonbear, I never saw your edit. That's interesting that you're an alum of RU. I didin't know that they give preference to current RU students. I can imagine preferring Jr. and Sr. (I anticipated this), but I thought that most programs were accepting of all universities.

I didn't look into the others you listed. RU specifically said they give preference to RU students, but if you look at the list of past participants, it doesn't seem that prevented students from other universities from getting involved.

I do indeed experess interest in the specific areas that are mentioned as research areas. I don't know how much you read of the programs, but a few of them concentrate on graph theory and some of its applications to game theory. Well, lucky me! I happen to be a double major at my university in mathematics and economics, and did some work in my intermediate microeconomics class on game theory. Do you think it was good that I mentioned this?

Absolutely! The closer fit you are to what people are doing there, the more likely you are to get accepted. And even if most are going to prefer Juniors and Seniors, it never hurts to try.
 
I thought I'd update everyone on what happened. The first REU letter I got was an acceptance letter: I plan on sending the confirmation in a couple days. I think I'm an example of hope for people, just look at my "stats":

-sophomore
-3.7
-upper level courses: real analysis I, II, complex analysis, linear algebra
-strong statement of interest and (presumably) letter of recommendation
-accepted into a program that i really didn't have a strong background in (graph theory, i had a little bit in linear algebra)

I really hope this gives hope to sophomores and people who don't exactly have a 4.0.
 
Congrats! :smile:

But may I just ask, what is the highest possible GPA? 4?
 
Yep, 4. And thanks!
 
Congratulations! So, are you going to share which one you'll be attending?
 
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I was thinking about it, but I then started thinking that if I did, one could end up finding a lot of information about me. Soooo I'm not going to, sorry!
 
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Congrats philosophking! I didn't apply to any REUs because I didn't have ten weeks to spare this summer/ am a freshman so that wouldn't be too good anyway, but an astro prof on campus offered me a job for a few weeks this summer so I guess that'll be my hilight.
Anyway, here's to hoping you have an awesome summer! :biggrin:
 
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Thanks for the congratulations.

Are you a math major? For freshman it is really hard to get into a math REU (probably impossible), and the only reason I think I got in one as a sophomore is because while normally I'd b e taking calc3/linear algebra courses, I was a year ahead and was able to take my first theory courses this year. I don't know what kind of REU would accept someone with only background in calcs and linear algebra.
 
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No I'm astro/physics, which isn't much better either regarding REUs your first year. But a girl can dream...
 

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