Solve x^3 -x -x^3=0 Puzzle: Is x=0 the Answer?

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The discussion revolves around the equation x^3 - x - x^3 = 0 and whether x = 0 is a valid solution. Participants explore the implications of dividing by x and the resulting mathematical conflicts, particularly focusing on the undefined nature of division by zero.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that x = 0 is an obvious solution to the equation, but question the validity of dividing both sides by x due to the undefined nature of division by zero.
  • One participant points out that dividing by x leads to the equation -1 = 0, which they argue is not a well-formed equation.
  • Another participant suggests that the statement -1 = 0 should be viewed as a qualifier rather than an equality, indicating that the original equation has no solution when considering the implications of division by zero.
  • There is a reiteration that simply writing down an equation does not guarantee its truth, emphasizing the importance of mathematical rules.
  • One participant restates the problem, highlighting the contradiction that arises when dividing by zero, leading to the conclusion that 1 = 0.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of dividing by zero and the validity of x = 0 as a solution. There is no consensus on whether the apparent conflict is resolvable or if it indicates a deeper issue with the equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of dividing by zero and the resulting undefined expressions, which contribute to the complexity of the discussion.

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This a puzzle for me.

x^3 -x -x^3=0 Obviously x=0
but, divide both sides by x

x^2 -1 -x^2=0 except for when x=0 'cause undefined
but that means
-1=0

is this apparent conflict not in fact one because you can't rule out x=0 ?
 
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regor60 said:
This a puzzle for me.
x^2 -1 -x^2=0 except for when x=0 'cause undefined
but that means
-1=0
QUOTE]

Hmm looks to me like you would have
-1 = 0/x
But x = 0 so you have
-1 = 0/0
0/0 is undefined.

-1 = undefined is not well formed equation.
Any know better mathematical terminology for 0/0?
 
[tex]x^3 - x - x^3 = 0[/tex] then divide by x:

[tex]\frac{x^3 - x - x^3}{x} = \frac{0}{x}[/tex]

[tex]x^2 - x^2 = 1[/tex]

Even saying that [tex]\frac{0}{x}[/tex] is 0 you should see that it is not possible to get two different numbers to make 1 when the two x values will give the same to take away.

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I thought that -1=0 is not a statement of equality, but more of a qualifier for the original equation. We want to know when say, x^2 - x^2 == 1, and that will only happen when 0 = 1, which is never. So that has no solution. I thought this meaning was always implied in mathematics. I mean I can say
1 + 1 =5, but how can that be?! I mean I just wrote it, but its not supposed to be possible! Just becasue yo ucan write down an equation doesn't mean its true.
 
regor60 said:
This a puzzle for me.

x^3 -x -x^3=0 Obviously x=0
but, divide both sides by x

x^2 -1 -x^2=0 except for when x=0 'cause undefined
but that means
-1=0

is this apparent conflict not in fact one because you can't rule out x=0 ?

You are simply breaking the rule of "not dividing by zero".
You could state your "problem" simpler:
x = 0
divide both sides by x
x/x = 0/x <-> 1 = 0
 

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