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Feb17-05, 03:46 PM   #1
 
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natural logarithm of negative numbers


I'm puzzled by....

[tex]\ln \left( -\frac{1}{2} \right) = - \ln \left( 2 \right) + i \pi [/tex]

Why is this true? How can I possibly get this result?

I know that

[tex]\ln \left( \frac{1}{2} \right) = - \ln \left( 2 \right)[/tex].

Thank you so much
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Feb17-05, 03:57 PM   #2
 
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Use Euler's formula and write "-1/2" in another way involving complex exponentials.Then apply "ln".

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Feb17-05, 04:04 PM   #3
 
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Technically, that's not true. ln is a multivalued function. In particular,

[tex]
\ln -\frac{1}{2} = \ln \frac{1}{2} + i \pi (1 + 2n) \quad (n \in \mathbb{Z})
[/tex]

Here is the general formula, which can be derived as Daniel suggests.

[tex]
\ln z = \ln |z| + i \arg z
[/tex]

(where the ln on the RHS is the ordinary real-valued logarithm)
Feb17-05, 04:10 PM   #4
 
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natural logarithm of negative numbers


Hurkyl,i was suggesting:

[tex] -\frac{1}{2}=-1 \cdot \frac{1}{2} [/tex]

And of course:

[tex] -1=e^{i\pi (2n+1)} \ (n\in \mathbb{Z}) [/tex]

No need to know any definition,just Euler's formula...

Daniel.
Feb17-05, 05:16 PM   #5
 
That makes sense! So, if

[tex]z=-\frac{1}{2}=\frac{1}{2}\mbox{ cis }\pi (2n+1) = \frac{1}{2} e^{i\pi (2n+1)}[/tex]

Then

[tex]\ln z = \ln \left[ \frac{1}{2} e^{i\pi (2n+1)} \right] = -\ln 2\mbox{ } +\mbox{ } i\pi (2n+1) \qquad (n\in \mathbb{Z}) [/tex]

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Ha,that's interesting,u edited your message,yet u didn't see the typo "cis" instead of "cos"...

Daniel.
Feb18-05, 03:28 AM   #7
 
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Ha,that's interesting,u edited your message,yet u didn't see the typo "cis" instead of "cos"...

Daniel.
FYI, [tex]cis \theta[/tex] is shorthand notation for [tex]\cos \theta + i \sin \theta[/tex]. It's perfectly valid.
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Hmmmmm...Interesting,even ingenious...

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Feb18-05, 05:48 AM   #9
 
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I haven't seen "cis" in years! (It's more engineer lingo than mathematics.)

(And both dextercioby's posts were clearly tongue in cheek.)
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