A hypothetical pressure question what if u covered the top of a container?

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario involving pressure in a container divided by a strong metal separator. The setup includes water above and below the separator, and participants are exploring the implications of this arrangement on pressure measurements.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether the pressure directly beneath the separator is zero or if it is influenced by the water above. There is also a consideration of the effects of sealing the volume below the separator and whether the separator's structural integrity affects pressure readings.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered interpretations regarding the pressure dynamics, noting that the pressure under the separator may be atmospheric rather than zero. Others are exploring different conditions that could affect this conclusion, such as the sealing of the lower volume.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing examination of assumptions regarding the separator's behavior under load and the nature of the pressure in a sealed versus unsealed system.

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Lets say u have something like this
Code:
|      |  => A
|------|  => B
|      |
|      |
|      |
|------|   => C (1m below the metal seperator)
B => this is a strong metal seperator.. the water on top of this sits on this. the seperator is attached to the container..it does not float. it separates the top from the bottom
A => water that rests on the seperator
C => what is the pressure here?

is the pressure just pgh?? (ie, is P right underneath the seperator 0??) the entire container is filled with water
 
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vaxopy said:
Lets say u have something like this
Code:
|      |  => A
|------|  => B
|      |
|      |
|      |
|------|   => C (1m below the metal seperator)
B => this is a strong metal seperator.. the water on top of this sits on this. the seperator is attached to the container..it does not float. it separates the top from the bottom
A => water that rests on the seperator
C => what is the pressure here?

is the pressure just pgh?? (ie, is P right underneath the seperator 0??) the entire container is filled with water
The pressure depends only on the height of water between C and B.

AM
 
If I read this correctly, Andrew Mason is correct. The water above the metal separator is supported by the separator itself which is supported by the sides of the container. Since none of that is supported by the water below the separator, it is irrelevant to the pressure there. The pressure right under the separator is 0 (well, actually, it is the atmospheric pressure).
 
...that is unless the volume below the sperator is sealed and the seperator does not deflect under the weight of the water above it.
 

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