What Causes the Tidal Force and How Does it Affect the Earth's Rotation?

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter StephenPrivitera
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Forces Gravity
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on the tidal force, described by the equation F=2GMr/d³, where M is the mass of the orbiting body, r is the distance from the center of the orbiting body, and d is the distance between the centers of the bodies. It highlights how the Earth's non-spherical shape exerts torque on the Moon, causing it to gain angular momentum and move outward, which in turn lengthens the Earth's day. The conversation also touches on related concepts such as PR Drag, the Yarkovski Effect, and Gas Drag, emphasizing their implications on orbital mechanics and momentum transfer.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of gravitational forces and torque
  • Familiarity with angular momentum concepts
  • Knowledge of orbital mechanics and tidal forces
  • Basic principles of gas dynamics and mean free path
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the mathematical derivation of tidal forces and their effects on celestial bodies
  • Explore the Poynting-Robertson effect and its implications on orbital decay
  • Study the Yarkovski Effect in detail and its impact on asteroid orbits
  • Investigate the concept of mean free path in gas dynamics and its relevance in astrophysics
USEFUL FOR

Astronomers, astrophysicists, students of physics, and anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of celestial mechanics and tidal interactions.

StephenPrivitera
Messages
360
Reaction score
0
Tidal Force:
F=2GMr/d3
M is the mass of the body being orbited
r is the distance from the center of the orbiting body
d is the distance between the centers of the bodies

But... Tidal force is 2F outward for r toward or away from the Sun and is -F in the plane perpendicular to this line. Why?
_____

So then we have tidal bulge. "Because the Earth is no longer a perfect sphere the Earth exerts a torque on the moon. The moon receives a positive net torque and its orbit evolves outwards. Angular momentum is extracted from the Earth rotation. As the moon gets farther away, the day lengthens."

Does this mean that because of the torque exerted on the moon, the moon gains angular momentum? And because the moon gains momentum, the Earth loses it. Is angular momentum pertinent to an objects spinning or its revolution? From the above quote it sounds like the moon's orbit evolves outward due to a gain in angular momentum. But it's spinning rate doesn't increase? Since it orbits at a greater distance it must orbit more slowly, and so in fact its spinning slows down (since it is tidally locked). Is it true that the Earth exerts a torque because the force of gravity can no longer be considered to come from the center of the Earth? I'm very confused about all this.
_____

PR Drag
A particle that reradiates solar energy actually emits more momentum in the forward direction than behind it. This cause the object to slow down. Why? And since it slows down it spirals into the sun. Again, why? What about v=sqrt(GM/r)? As v decreases r increases.
_____

Yarkovski Effect
For prograde rotation, the force is positive. For retrograde the force is negative. Positive, negative?? Do you mean in the direction of motion and opposite motion? Isn't this pretty much the same as PR Drag?
_____

Gas Drag
When an object is larger than the mean free path of the gas it is traveling in, we can consider the gas a fluid. What is the mean free path of the gas?
_____

Any links to good resources on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
 
Astronomy news on Phys.org
HyperPhysics and Eric Weisstein's World of Physics are two good, general sources. Here's a link to the latter's section on tides:
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Tide.html
You might like to take a look at Tidal Torque.
HyperPhysics has a good write-up of mean free path.
If you google Poynting Robertson Yarkovsky (with a 'y'), you'll get several good sites (I assume you have a broadband connection); the two effects are related.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
5K
  • · Replies 39 ·
2
Replies
39
Views
8K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
8K
Replies
9
Views
5K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 86 ·
3
Replies
86
Views
9K