Which Energies Are Allowed in the Half-Harmonic Oscillator Potential?

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The discussion revolves around determining the allowed energies for a half-harmonic oscillator potential, defined as having a quadratic potential for positive x and infinite potential for negative x. Participants are exploring the implications of this setup in the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster suggests that only odd-numbered energies from the standard harmonic oscillator are allowed due to the boundary condition at x = 0. Other participants engage with this idea, questioning how odd solutions are proven to be odd and discussing the implications of normalization in the context of the half-oscillator.

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The conversation is active, with participants sharing insights and affirmations regarding the original poster's reasoning. There is an exploration of related concepts, such as the properties of wave functions and the role of normalization in determining allowed states.

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Participants note the challenge of proving certain properties of wave functions and the necessity of considering non-normalized functions in the half-harmonic oscillator scenario. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the quantum mechanics of this potential.

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I have to find the allowed energies of this potential:

[tex] \[V(x)=<br /> \begin{cases}<br /> \frac1{2}m\omega^2x^2 & \text{for } x > 0\\<br /> \infty & \text{for } x < 0<br /> \end{cases}<br /> \][/tex]

My suggestion is that all the odd-numbered energies (n = 1, 3, 5...) in the ordinary harmonic osc. potential are allowed since [tex]\psi(0) = 0[/tex] in the corresponding wave functions and this is consistent with the fact that [tex]\psi(x)[/tex] has to be 0 where the potential is infinite.

In the assignment it says that it takes some careful thought to reach this result and it took me 10 seconds to figure this out. In other words; somethings is wrong :-p

PS. I am new to quantum mechanics so please don't use any obscure notation :wink:
 
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Ha Ha, no thing is wrong with your solution. You're just a smart cookie. :smile:
 
Wow, that was fast! Thanks. :smile:
 
question: how do you prove that odd N numbered solutions to the harmonic oscillator are odd? It's not necessary to solve this problem, but I'm trying to remember what my teacher said about it. I assume that you can prove that [tex]A_+ \psi_0[/tex] is odd, while [tex]A_+^2 \psi_0[/tex] is even.
 
You can f.e. write

[itex]\phi_n=d(a_+)^n \phi_0[/itex], while [itex]\phi_0 = c e^{-(\frac{x}{2x_0})^2}[/itex].

Knowing something like [itex]a_+ = (\frac{x}{x_0} - x_0 \frac{d}{dx})[/itex] (not completely sure about this) you can see that [itex]a_+[/itex] adds or removes one x to/from every term every time you apply it, so the resulting function must be odd/even.

edit: I remember I also did the "half-oscillator" this way, but my professor said that you also have to consider functions which are not normalized in the harmonic oszillator potential, and prove that there is no even function with [itex]\phi_n(0) = 0[/itex].
 
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