Calculate Torque Exerted by Fish at 20° Angle

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The problem involves calculating the torque exerted by a fish on a fishing pole positioned at a 20-degree angle with the horizontal. Participants are exploring the relationship between the angles involved and how they affect the torque calculation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for torque and the significance of the angles involved, questioning whether the 20-degree angle should be considered in determining the effective angle for torque calculation. There is also exploration of different interpretations of the angle theta.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning the assumptions regarding the angles. Some participants have offered guidance on the relationship between the angles, while others are still clarifying their understanding of how to apply the torque formula correctly.

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There is some confusion regarding the angles involved in the torque calculation, particularly how the 20-degree angle with the horizontal relates to the angle used in the torque formula. Participants are navigating through these assumptions without reaching a definitive resolution.

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The fishing pole in the http://home.earthlink.net/~suburban-xrisis/clip.jpg makes an angle of 20 degrees with the horizontal. What is the torque exerted by the fish about an axis perpendicular to the page and passing though the fisher's hand?

Is this question basically asking about how much torque there is?

T=rFsinX
T=2m*100N*sin37
T=120Nm

is this all that the question is asking for?
 
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torque = Fd sin(theta)
theta is the angle between the force and the fishing pole...
your theta is not quite correct, otherwise seems great
 
is theta 123 degrees?
 
Yes, it is 123 degrees. Optionally you could take 37 + 20 = 57 degrees. They have the same [tex]sin[/tex].
 
does the fact that the the fisher has a 20 degree angle with the hoizon? Will that make a difference in theta being 123 degrees?
 
Isn't the 20 degrees a completely different angle than the 123 degree angle?
 
yes but I'm wondering if I should take into account the 20 degrees above the horizontal... I shouldn't right? it shold just be...

T=rFsinX
T=2m*100N*sin123
T=167.7Nm
 
UrbanXrisis said:
yes but I'm wondering if I should take into account the 20 degrees above the horizontal... I shouldn't right? it shold just be...

T=rFsinX
T=2m*100N*sin123
T=167.7Nm

Your answer is correct. But I don't understand what you mean by "taking the 20 degrees into account". If that angle wasn't 20, then theta wouldn't be 123.

For example if the angle was 30 instead of 20, then you'd be taking sin 113.
 

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