Isothermal compression of monatomic gas ?

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the isothermal compression of a monatomic ideal gas. The original poster presents a scenario where 5 moles of gas undergo compression from an initial volume of 0.50 m³ to a final volume of 0.20 m³, seeking to find the final pressure while noting that the temperature remains constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the ideal gas law and the relationship between pressure and volume during isothermal processes. There is a debate about the relevance of energy considerations and the nature of the gas involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance on using the ideal gas law to relate the initial and final states of the gas. There is an acknowledgment of differing opinions on how much information should be shared, with some suggesting to limit hints to encourage independent problem-solving.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses uncertainty about the role of energy in the problem, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the concepts involved in isothermal processes. There is also a mention of homework constraints that may limit the extent of guidance provided.

zaf
Hello forum members

I need some help on H.W problem...just enough reasoning to atleast get started

the question is as follows:
5 moles of a monoatomic ideal gas at an initial volume of .50 m^3 and an initial pressure of 2.0 * 10^5 Pa undergoes an isothermal compression to .20m^3. Find the final pressure ?

so, the temperature is going to be constant , the inital and final volumes and intial pressure is also know, also the total energy (Q)is going to be work done on the gas... which must be negaive... internal energy is conserved ? am i correct so far...how do i solve this ?
 
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You're overcomplicating. The energy doesn't figure into it. It is also irrelevant that the gas is monatomic. The problem is much easier than you suspect.


Njorl
 
Right Njorl,
all there is to use is the equation of an ideal gas:
pV = nRT.
Since there is initial & final state, it's a system of 2 equations:
I) p1V1 = nRT
II) p2V2 = nRT
Now, T is not given, so you better eliminate it:
I) T = p1V1/nR
II) T = p2V2/nR
Which are clearly equal, so
I = II) p1V1/nR = p2V2/nR
or (nR cancels)
p1V1 = p2V2
And we solve for p2:
p2= p1V1/V2
OK?
 
Yes, but I thought it should be left for Zaf to do with just the hint.

Njorl
 
yes. i understand arcnets... thank you
 
Originally posted by Njorl
Yes, but I thought it should be left for Zaf to do with just the hint.

Njorl
Yes, right. Maybe that was a little too much...
 

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