Problem on finding the second derivative.

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The discussion revolves around finding the second derivative of the function \(\frac{x}{x^2-4}\). Participants are exploring the steps involved in calculating the first and second derivatives, as well as discussing different approaches to simplify the process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their calculation of the first derivative as \(\frac{-x^2-4}{(x^2-4)^2}\) and expresses uncertainty about their second derivative calculation.
  • Another participant provides an alternative first derivative as \(\frac{1}{x^2 -4} - \frac{2x^2}{(x^2-4)^2}\) and a second derivative of \(\frac{-6x}{(x^2-4)^2} + \frac{8x^3}{(x^2-4)^3}\).
  • One participant suggests rewriting the original function as \(x(x^2 -4)^{-1}\) to simplify the differentiation process.
  • A later reply counters that this approach may complicate the use of the chain rule for this specific function, but acknowledges that either method could be valid.
  • Another participant shares a formula for finding derivatives of quotient functions, indicating familiarity with the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for finding the second derivative, as there are multiple approaches discussed and differing opinions on their effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the simplification process, indicating potential missing assumptions or unresolved steps in their reasoning.

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I have a problem on finding the second derivative for this function:

[tex]\frac {x}{x^2-4}[/tex]

For the first derivative, I got:

[tex]\frac {-x^2-4}{(x^2-4)^2}[/tex]

Now here is where I am stuck! So far for the second derivative, I got this (Please check!):

[tex]\frac {-2x(x^2-4)^2-4x(-x^2-4)(x^2-4)}{(x^2-4)^4}[/tex]

I need this simplified! I know, it's an easy question. I may have lost my mind! :smile:
Also please show me the steps. Thanks!

BTW. I am new to this forum and just learned the latex system. It is very complicated. Took me a while just to write out the problems above. I guess I got to get used to it.
 
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First derivative is:

[tex]\frac{1}{x^2 -4} - \frac{2x^2}{(x^2-4)^2}[/tex]

Second derivative is:
[tex]\frac{-6x}{(x^2-4)^2} + \frac{8x^3}{(x^2-4)^3}[/tex]
 
it would be easier if you rewrite the original equation like this:
x(x^2 -4)^-1. So you don't need to deal with fractions
 
Aki said:
it would be easier if you rewrite the original equation like this:
x(x^2 -4)^-1. So you don't need to deal with fractions
Not necessarily. It is actually more complicated using the chain rule for this particular function. But either way is fine. I solved the problem already. Thanks for the advice though.

Here's a formula for finding quotient derivatives: (I'm sure you know it already)

Function: [tex]\frac {f(x)}{g(x)}[/tex]

Formula: [tex]\frac{g(x)f'(x)-f(x)g'(x)}{[g(x)]^2}[/tex]
 
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