Solve Initial Value Problem: dy/dx = x-4-xy-4y, y(0)=4 | Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around solving an initial value problem represented by the differential equation dy/dx = x - 4 - xy - 4y, with the initial condition y(0) = 4. Participants are exploring the correct approach to factor and integrate the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial factoring of the equation and its implications on the integration process. There are attempts to clarify the correct form of the equation and the integration steps involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the factoring and integration process, but there is no explicit consensus on the final solution yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct formulation of the differential equation, with participants questioning the original setup and the accuracy of the initial attempts.

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[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=x-4-xy-4y[/tex]
you are given that [itex]y(0)=4[/itex].

so, here's what i did:
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=(x-4)(y+1)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{y+1}=(x-4)dx[/tex]

i integrated both sides:
[tex]ln(y+1)=\frac{x^2}{2}-4x+C[/tex]

[tex]y=e^{\frac{x^2}{2}}e^{-4x}e^{C}-1[/tex]

plugged in for x and y:
[tex]4=e^{\frac{0^2}{x}}e^{-4*0}e^{C}-1[/tex]

[tex]5=e^C[/tex]

so:
[tex]y=5e^{\frac{x^2}{x}}e^{-4x}[/tex]

i know that's wrong, and i need help working it out. that's what i have so far though.
 
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The initial formula (when u restrained into a product of quantities in round brackets) is incorrect.

You may want to check again.

Daniel.
 
In other words, you factored wrong

x- 4- xy- 4y is not (x- 4)(y+1)= x- 4+ xy- 4y.
 
The bad news that the solution to this Cauchy problem,according to my version of Maple,is not pretty,not pretty at all...

Are u sure this is the equation u were supposed to solve...?

Daniel.
 
nah, i didnt factor wrong. i just wrote down the equation wrong.
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=x-4+xy-4y[/tex]

try that one?
 
It's something else.In this case,your initial factoring turns out to be correct (in this case!) and so the solution is obtained the way you did.Unfortunately,after computing that integration constant,when writing the final solution,you made a mistake.Can u "fix" it...?

Daniel.
 
[tex]y=5e^{\frac{x^2}{x}}e^{-4x}-1[/tex]
maybe? haha, I am fairly tired and at work. I am missing a lot of things. :frown:
 
It's a typo (again!),it's not "x",but "2" in the denominator of the exponential...But the rest is FINALLY correct.

Advice:take a well diserved break...:wink:

Daniel.
 
oh my dear! i can't believe i missed that! i still must be fried from the weed. :smile:
 

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