Are you against or in favour of the USA suggestion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of a recent agreement between Russia and Iran regarding nuclear weapons production and the USA's suggestion to exclude Russia from the G8 meetings. Participants explore the fairness of this suggestion and the influence of the USA in international relations, particularly within the context of the G8 and global governance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern that the USA's suggestion to exclude Russia from the G8 is unfair unless all member countries have a say in the decision.
  • Others argue that the USA's influence is significant enough to sway votes in its favor, despite some dissenting views on its actual power in the G8 context.
  • One participant suggests that the USA's actions may be perceived as an attempt to dominate global affairs, leading to resentment from other nations.
  • Another viewpoint posits that the USA's historical use of vetoes in the Security Council reflects a lack of agreement with its policies from other countries.
  • Some participants assert that the USA has no right to interfere in the decisions of the G8 and should allow the UN to handle such matters.
  • A question is raised about the potential for a parallel G7 that could include Russia and exclude the USA, suggesting that the USA's suggestion may not hold much weight.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the USA's influence and the fairness of its suggestion to exclude Russia from the G8. Multiple competing views remain on the implications of this suggestion and the role of the USA in international governance.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about the influence of the USA and the dynamics within the G8, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion reflects varying perspectives on international relations and governance structures.

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Russia and Iran has just signed an agreement for: producing nuclear weapons, in an old nuclear plant which was projected by the Russians many years before and is situated in Iran.after the nuclear plant(Bushehrit) will be able to produce an energy equal to 1000 megavat.
The main question is if Iran will do only that, they are planning to reconstruct other nuclear plants for production of Uranium, which will favour the creation of Nuclear Weapons
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After that decision the USA suggested that Russia should not participate in the Next Meeting of G8, is it fair what do you think...
 
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I think it would be fair as long as everyone in the g8 gets to vote on it. I do not think that the USA should be able to just exlcude someone out because they are not doing what is in the interest of the US. Although, if the US did put up such a vote it would probably get passed just because the US has such a huge influence.
 
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Would hope the issues were addressed rather than exercising useless spanking. Many parts of the world are grumpy enough towards the US as it is.
 
mattmns said:
Although, if the US did put up such a vote it would probably get passed just because the US has such a huge influence.
I disagree with this assertion. The USA does not have nearly enough influence to counterbalance not only Russia's, but anyone who sees this as another attempt of the USA to turn the rest of the world into their *****es... So the entire world.

No, there's a reason the USA has used more Vetos than anyone else on the security council, and that's because no one ever agrees with her on these things.
 
Smurf said:
I disagree with this assertion. The USA does not have nearly enough influence to counterbalance not only Russia's, but anyone who sees this as another attempt of the USA to turn the rest of the world into their *****es... So the entire world.

No, there's a reason the USA has used more Vetos than anyone else on the security council, and that's because no one ever agrees with her on these things.
You are probably right, I do not know much about the g8
 
America has no right to interfere, in my view.
 
How did USA decide for G8, Is USA G8 ? Or did it force it, if it did then I see it as an act of Blackmailing. By such actions USA will suffer 10 years down the line. They think they are still in the 80's. They are not elected as incharge to decide for the world Let the UN do that.
 
Would anything prevent a parallel G7 to take place? One that included Russia and excluded the US? This possibility is probably why this US suggestion can only be that, a suggestion.
 

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