Horizontal Circular Motion-Tension, Speed- Quick Help Needed

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The problem involves a 2.0 kg sphere revolving in a horizontal circle, with two wires exerting tension. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the tension in both wires is equal, as well as the speed of the sphere.

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Can anyone give me some clues as how to do this problem. I have been on it for ever and am stumped. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks

Two wires are tied to the 2.0 kg sphere shown in the figure . The sphere revolves in a horizontal circle at constant speed.

For what speed is the tension the same in both wires?(in m/s)
What is the tension?
 

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I posted an outline for the solution to this same problem a few weeks ago. See: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=64510

Here are the details then:

Let the top wire = L1 with tension T; the other is L2, T:

[tex]Tcos(30) + Tcos(60) = mg[/tex]

(1)[tex]T = 2*9.8/1.366 = 14.35 N[/tex]

Then write the equation (2) for the horizontal force on the sphere (in terms of [itex]\omega[/itex] and r)
(2)[tex]Tsin(30) + Tsin(60) = m\omega^2r[/tex]

Then find the lengths of the wires in order to find r.
(3)[tex]L_1cos(30) - L_2cos(60) = 1[/tex] (ie. 1 m.)

[tex]L_1sin(30) = L_2sin(60) = r[/tex]

So:
[tex]L_2 = L_1sin(30)/sin(60)[/tex]

Substitute for L_2 in (3):

[tex]L_1(cos(30) - sin(30)cos(60)/sin(60)) = 1[/tex]

[tex]L_1 = 1/(.866 - .5 * .5 /.866) = 1.54 m[/tex]

[tex]r = .77m[/tex]

Substitute r into (2) (both tensions = T) and use T from (1) to find [itex]\omega[/itex]
I'll leave the rest to you to work out

AM
 
OK for the triangle give to you at first, find all the angles and hence find all the sides

Now for the ball, what forces are acting on it? (one starts with C and the other with G)

G points straight down (as always), and C is 90 degrees to g , and points left

Draw these two vectors.
Now you have two triangles... (although it sounds more complicated it isnt)
Now write the force equations (considering the components of force points up and down, and left and right separately). You should have no trouble hereafter
 
Thanks to both of you. I got the answer correct
 
Would it be for the same concept for the diagram below?
 

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