Minimum Angular Speed for Safe Ride on ROTOR

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The problem involves determining the minimum angular speed required for a person to remain safely against the wall of a spinning cylinder in an amusement park ride, known as the ROTOR. The context includes the coefficient of friction and the radius of the cylinder.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on a person in the ride, including normal force and friction. There are attempts to set up equations based on vertical forces and considerations of centripetal acceleration. Questions arise regarding the role of mass and how it affects the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the forces involved and the relationship between mass and normal force, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method to find the minimum angular speed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of calculating the minimum angular speed without specific weight values, highlighting the need to consider how mass factors into the equations.

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The ROTOR is an amusement park ride where people stand against the inside of a cylinder. Once the cylinder is spinning fast enough, the floor drops out. If the coefficient of friction is 0.42 and the cylinder has a radius of 2.5m, what is the minimum angular speed of the cylinder so that the people don't fall out?

How would I go about solving this? I don't even know where to start!
 
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let m = mass of a person
let n = normal force exerted on the person by the (spinning) cylinder wall
let μ = the coefficient of friction
let g = acceleration of gravity

Start by thinking about the forces acting on the person along the vertical axis (up and down) in terms of the above. What has to be true if the person doesn't fall? Set up the appropriate equation to express this.

Then, think about what produces the normal force and you should be able to find your answer.
 
I think I know how to find the max cetripetal acceleration with ac = v2/r or
v = sq. root of r(ac). But without knowing the weight of the people inside the ride, I just don't understand how you would find the minimum angular speed.
 
It's the speed that gives you the n that you need.

You do know the weight: mg. The m will eventually cancel out.
 

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