what do you think of this concept?

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I dont have do demonstrate that they are becuase I don't think so (I say this in my first post).

I just asked, that becuase breathing is part of life, and he was considering breathing isn't a concept, then life also shouldn't be. But we can't demonstrate they are concepts or not, because they are part of us, and our existance: we are in them, they are superior to us. as well as demonstrating if they are real or not is also over us.

But anyway, i don't say you can't try to, you have total free will.

Jonny_trigonometry

The horse is ahead of the wagon! It doesn't matter if we are being dreamed or if we are real ("dreaming" and "real" are concepts that we satisfactorilly define to ourselves, whose to say that there is a difference between the two?). What is real? What is a dream? We can't answer these questions with certainty. It's up to all of us to willingly respect each other and give the benefit of the doubt to each other when we feel that the other person may not really understand what we mean to convey. The fact that we exist (whatever that means... but I hope you can understand that I may not have the string of words that best fits your satisfaction of the definition of existance) is enough for me. Does it really matter if life and death are "concepts" or if they are "real" or "imaginary"? Suppose you proved that life isn't real, what would you do next? be the "life of the party" at your own backyard BBQ? Or would you be a hermit, shut-in, exile, calculating your predictions of other people's behavior?

Jonny_trigonometry

hehe, don't I look stupid! I meant to say "the wagon is ahead of the horse". One more comment, this is all my opinion, and I know it's nowhere near a true explaination.

cronxeh

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/fedeescien...dandbrain.html

The author of that has a very poor logic and comes off as someone who tries to extrapolate basic scientific knowledge into areas he is not very well familiar, and fails miserably.

This guy: Marco Biagini
Ph.D. in Solid State Physics

hypnagogue

The arguments on this site are poor and have already received extensive critique here on PF; see this thread.

jrlogan

I agree with you about Marco Biagini. I too thought he was a rather poor debater/arguer,whatever you want to call it. I thought maybe he was just not very well gifted at making long statements of hypothesies and /or statements/logical conclusions.
I do apollogize for the reference.