Can Black Holes Truly Attract Light?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether black holes can attract light, exploring concepts from general relativity and the behavior of photons in curved spacetime. Participants examine the implications of mass and energy on the paths of light near black holes and other massive objects.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if black holes can attract light, prompting a discussion on the nature of gravity and light.
  • Another participant asserts that light behaves oddly near black holes due to gravitational attraction and curved geodesics.
  • A participant explains that in general relativity, mass distorts spacetime, causing photons to follow geodesics that lead them towards black holes.
  • It is noted that all mass warps space and thus can "attract" light, not just black holes, with an example comparing the bending of light near stars and black holes of equal mass.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the relevance of general relativity to the discussion, suggesting a need for clarification on the concepts involved.
  • Another participant clarifies that general relativity describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime, which affects the path of light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that mass warps spacetime and affects the path of light, but there are differing interpretations of how this relates specifically to black holes compared to other massive objects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the nature of photons and their relationship to mass, indicating a need for further exploration of these concepts. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with general relativity and its implications.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in general relativity, the behavior of light in gravitational fields, and the nature of black holes, particularly those new to astronomy or physics concepts.

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blackholes and light.....

Dear Reader,
are black holes capable of attracting light?
-benzun
the more dimensions we know, the more we know.
 
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Yes. Light in the neighborhood of a black hole does odd things because of the gravitic attraction (= highly curved geodesics). I am sure some of our experts can give you links to anumations.
 
Hi,
In the framework of general relativity, mass is able to create a great distortion in spacetime, so spacetime around a BH will be very curved.
Photons have not mass, but they have energy, and in general relativity things with energy always follow the straightest way possible, that is called a geodesic. Near a black hole, the geodesic of a photon conducts to the black hole, so yes, photons will be attracted
 
Welcome to Physics Forums, benzun_1999
 
meteor's explanation was good, but there is another implication here: since all mass warps space, all mass "attracts light"(not the wording I'd use, but it'll do). Black holes are not special in that regard.

For example, a photon passing by a star at a certain distance will have its path bent by the same amount as a photon passing by a black hole of the same mass at the same distance (measured from the center of each).
 
thanks...but...need more help

hi,
thank you phobos for inviting me. How does general relativity come hear. i am new to astronomy. i feel photons have relative mass.
-benzun
go easy on me
 


Originally posted by benzun_1999
hi,
How does general relativity come hear?

I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you asking why General Relativity has something to do with your previous question? If so, it's because General Relativity is the theory that showed that gravity is just a warping or curvature of spacetime. Thus it is not that the BH attracts light, but rather that the light must follow the straightest path possible (path of least resistance), and must thus curve its path right along with the curve in spacetime.

Of course, the velocity of the object plays a role, which is why most things do not "trap" photons (since they are traveling very fast), but black holes are such a "steep" (for lack of a better word) curvature that even light cannot escape.
 

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