Work needed to remove Keel-Aid from water

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The problem involves calculating the work required to remove Kool-Aid contaminated water from a swimming pool. The pool has a radius of 14 feet and a height of 12 feet, with only 1 foot of water present. The weight of the contaminated water is given as 65.7 lbs/ft³.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the bounds of integration for calculating work, initially suggesting different limits based on the height of the water and the depth of the pool.
  • Some participants question the setup of the integral, particularly the relationship between the distance the water needs to be pumped and the bounds of integration.
  • There is a focus on correctly identifying the weight of the water and the distance it must be moved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying misunderstandings about the integration bounds and the physical setup of the problem. A correct integral expression has been identified, but further exploration of the reasoning behind the setup continues.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the depth of the pool and the actual height of the water, which affects the integration limits. Participants are encouraged to visualize the problem for better understanding.

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You are visiting your friend Fabio's house. You find that, as a joke, he filled his swimming pool with Kool-Aid, which dissolved perfectly into the water. However, now that you want to swim, you must remove all of the Kool-Aid contaminated water. The swimming pool is round, with a 14 foot radius. It is 12 feet tall and has 1 feet of water in it.
How much work is required to remove all of the water by pumping it over the side? Use the physical definition of work, and the fact that the weight of the Kool-Aid contaminated water is 65.7lbs/ft^3


first of all, i figure the bounds of integration to be from 1 to 12.

volume = pi(14)^2

=196pi*ft = 65.7lbs/ft^3

so...
196pi(65.7)

my function:
distance would just be equal to x right?
[tex]\int_{1}^{12} 196*pi(65.7) * x dx[/tex]
 
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ProBasket said:
You are visiting your friend Fabio's house. You find that, as a joke, he filled his swimming pool with Kool-Aid, which dissolved perfectly into the water. However, now that you want to swim, you must remove all of the Kool-Aid contaminated water. The swimming pool is round, with a 14 foot radius. It is 12 feet tall and has 1 feet of water in it.
How much work is required to remove all of the water by pumping it over the side? Use the physical definition of work, and the fact that the weight of the Kool-Aid contaminated water is 65.7lbs/ft^3


first of all, i figure the bounds of integration to be from 1 to 12.
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No (unless I'm misunderstanding). You want to integrate over the height of water that needs to be pumped. There is only 1 foot of water. Draw a picture and label an axis. You can let the bottom of the pool be 0 and the top of the water be at 1. So you'd integrate from 0 to 1. The weight of an amount dx is 196pi(65.7)dx. What is the distance that this amount needs to be pushed through?
 
learningphysics said:
ProBasket said:
You are visiting your friend Fabio's house. You find that, as a joke, he filled his swimming pool with Kool-Aid, which dissolved perfectly into the water. However, now that you want to swim, you must remove all of the Kool-Aid contaminated water. The swimming pool is round, with a 14 foot radius. It is 12 feet tall and has 1 feet of water in it.
How much work is required to remove all of the water by pumping it over the side? Use the physical definition of work, and the fact that the weight of the Kool-Aid contaminated water is 65.7lbs/ft^3


first of all, i figure the bounds of integration to be from 1 to 12.
[/tex]

No (unless I'm misunderstanding). You want to integrate over the height of water that needs to be pumped. There is only 1 foot of water. Draw a picture and label an axis. You can let the bottom of the pool be 0 and the top of the water be at 1. So you'd integrate from 0 to 1. The weight of an amount dx is 196pi(65.7)dx. What is the distance that this amount needs to be pushed through?

The water needs to be pumped out of the pool, so the bounds of integration would be from 1 to 12. Youre not pumping the water from nside the pool to a height of 1m. The pools depth is 12m.

Regards,

Nenad
 
Nenad said:
The water needs to be pumped out of the pool, so the bounds of integration would be from 1 to 12. Youre not pumping the water from nside the pool to a height of 1m. The pools depth is 12m.

Regards,

Nenad

But there is only 1 foot of water in the pool. You are integrating over the water that needs to be pumped, not the distance that needs to be travelled.

Anyway here's the integral I figured:
[tex]\int_{0}^{1} 196*pi(65.7) * (12 - x) dx[/tex]
 
I see. My mistake. you're right, that integrals is correct. I mixed up the distance traveled with the integrals bounds.

Regards,

Nenad
 

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