Figuring Out How Much HCl for Ba(OH)2 Reaction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of hydrochloric acid (HCl) required to completely react with a given volume of barium hydroxide (Ba(OH)2). The participants explore the stoichiometry of the reaction and clarify the steps involved in the calculation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Integral0 poses a question about the volume of 0.273 M HCl needed for the reaction with 50.00 mL of 0.167 M Ba(OH)2, referencing the reaction equation 2 HCl + Ba(OH)2 -> 2 H2O + BaCl.
  • Integral0 expresses confusion regarding the need to double the amount of HCl due to the stoichiometry of the reaction, which requires two moles of HCl for each mole of Ba(OH)2.
  • Integral0 describes their professor's method for calculating moles of Ba(OH)2 and the subsequent steps to find the required volume of HCl, but expresses confusion about the reasoning behind using HCl with OH.
  • Another participant explains that for every mole of Ba(OH)2, two moles of HCl are needed, clarifying the calculation of moles and the conversion to volume of HCl.
  • This participant also mentions that they prefer to keep calculations simple by avoiding scientific notation, using millimoles per milliliter instead.
  • There is a suggestion that a typo may have occurred in the professor's explanation regarding the use of HCl with OH2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the stoichiometric relationship between HCl and Ba(OH)2, but there is some confusion about the calculation steps and terminology used, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved in terms of clarity for all participants.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the conversion between moles and millimoles, as well as the use of different units in calculations. There is also mention of potential typos in the professor's explanation that may have contributed to the confusion.

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What volume of .273 Molarity HCl is required to react completely with 50.00 mL of .167 Molarity of Barium Hydroxide?

2 HCl + Ba(OH)2 -> 2 H20 + BaCl

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I am confused about this problem because my profe told me that you need to double the amount of Hydrogen b/c there are 2 moles of HCl. Can someone explain this?

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Also, my profe solved the problem by this method:

50.00 mL x L/1000 x .167 mol = 8.35 x 10^-3 mol Ba(OH)2 which means Ba is 8.35 x 10^-3 mol. OH is 8.35 x 10^-3 mol.

This is where I get confused.

Then he took 2 mol HCl x (8.35 x 10^-3 OH) x (1L/.273) mol x 10^3 mL of HCl.

I don't understand why he used HCl with OH and how he canceled the OH out to get the HCl.

Thanks for the help!
 
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Originally posted by Integral0
What volume of .273 Molarity HCl is required to react completely with 50.00 mL of .167 Molarity of Barium Hydroxide?

2 HCl + Ba(OH)2 -> 2 H20 + BaCl

--------------------------------------------

I am confused about this problem because my profe told me that you need to double the amount of Hydrogen b/c there are 2 moles of HCl. Can someone explain this?
Hi there Integral0!

For your first question, I'll explain it step by step.

First, calculate how many mmols of Ba(OH)2 you have got.
50 ml * 0.167 mmol/ml = 8.35 mmol

Now, the equation says the following: for every molecule of Ba(OH)2 you have got, you'll need TWO molecules of HCl to react with it.

That is why you have to multiply the amount of Ba(OH)2 (don't divide it by two, otherwise the formula would've read 0.5 HCl + Ba(OH)2 ! )

So: 8.35 * 2 = 16.7 mmol of HCl is needed
Your concentration is 0.273 mmol/ml
16.7 / 0.273 = 61.2 ml HCl

Does that make sense to you?
 
Originally posted by Integral0
Also, my profe solved the problem by this method:

50.00 mL x L/1000 x .167 mol = 8.35 x 10^-3 mol Ba(OH)2 which means Ba is 8.35 x 10^-3 mol. OH is 8.35 x 10^-3 mol.

This is where I get confused.

Then he took 2 mol HCl x (8.35 x 10^-3 OH) x (1L/.273) mol x 10^3 mL of HCl.

I don't understand why he used HCl with OH and how he canceled the OH out to get the HCl.

Thanks for the help!
Wow :) your proffessor knows how to write a complex equation :)

I always like to write things step by step: what do I have got and what do I need?

I also like to keep things simple by not calculating with the 10^-3 as you saw, I didn't use it at all to solve the problem, but came to the same answer.

A molarity is expressed as mole per liter. But you can change it into anything you like, millimole per milliliter, micromole per microliter. As long as the units stay the same at both sides!

Since the units are displayed in milliliters, I decided to calculate the molarities in millimoles per milliliters (mmol/ml).


As for the confusion why he used HCl with OH, that must have been a typo. He took HCl with OH2! That makes sense, since those are reacting with each other.

And as the formula dictates, for every molecule of OH2 that you have got, you'll need TWO molecules of HCl.
 
thank you

thank you Monique
 
You are welcome.
 

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