Are there any particle simulators out there to download

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The discussion revolves around the availability of particle simulators, specifically focusing on chemical or nuclear simulations that can be downloaded for free. Participants explore the capabilities and limitations of such simulators, particularly in relation to simulating interactions between atoms.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in a simulator that allows for real-time interaction between a Hydrogen atom and a Helium atom, including the ability to set initial velocities.
  • Another participant questions the type of simulation desired and suggests that the complexity arises from the need to integrate quantum mechanics with visualization techniques.
  • A participant mentions GSIM, a simulator based on GEANT, noting its limitations in providing only particle tracks and energy deposits, and highlights the complexity of programming target particles and detectors.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of particle momenta leading to significant hadronic showers, referencing the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) as an example.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability or suitability of specific simulators, and multiple competing views regarding the capabilities and requirements of particle simulators remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the integration of quantum mechanics in simulations and the complexity of programming necessary components, which may not be fully addressed in the available tools.

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for free? chemical or nuclear simulators.
 
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for free? chemical or nuclear simulators.
What kind 'simulator' are you talking about? What are you trying to do?

- Warren
 
I want to put a Hydrogen atom next to a Helium atom, and give them initial velocities then see what happens in realtime.
 
You want a simulator in which you can smash the particles together or something?

The difficulty in such a simulator lies mainly in the communication between two parts: the simulation machinery, which is likely to need quantum mechanics, and the simulation visualization, which is not capable of "displaying" quantum-mechanical results.

- Warren
 
The only thing I know of is GSIM built off GEANT. But it will only give you particle tracks and energy deposits. The other thing is you have to use electrons or real photons for beam particles and something as your target particle. These programs are pretty complicated if you don't have some one to help with some of the programming. You also have to program your target into the simulator. The detector also has to be designed unless you use one already available. But this is usually only for nuclear and particle physics.

Besides, depending on the momenta of the particles you are talking about will cause major hadronic showers. Just look at RHIC.
Josh
 

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