# Faraday's law. Induced electric field.

by disknoir
 Sci Advisor Thanks P: 2,099 The answer is that you can use any loop in Faraday's Law. There's no need for a wire or something. Often, however it's convenient to choose the path through a current conducting wire since, if it's thin enough, the electric field is homogeneous inside it in very good approximation. One should keep in mind that there is a lot of confusion concerning Faraday's Law in the literature, because often they present the integral form of this law first, and usually they present it incompletely or for special cases. The basic laws of electromagnetism, valid in any inertial frame of reference are Maxwell's equations in differential form. Faraday's law reads $$\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{E}=-\frac{1}{c} \partial_t \vec{B}=0.$$ This holds true in any case. It's a fundamental law of physics! Now you can integrate the whole equation over an arbitrary area and use Stokes's integral theorem to get: $$\int_{\partial A} \mathrm{d} \vec{x} \cdot \vec{E}=-\frac{1}{c} \int_{A} \mathrm{d}^2 \vec{F} \cdot \vec{B}.$$ Here, you can choose any area with any boundary you like. It doesn't need to be a wire or anything else physical. It can be just abstract mathematical areas and boundary lines. The confusion now comes from the fact that usually one tries to write the time derivative outside of the surface integral and then makes more or less explicitly assumptions, which are not always valid. It's way easier to first look at the most general case of a moving surface with moving boundary. You can prove that in this most general case the Faraday law takes the integral form $$\int_{\partial A} \mathrm{d} \vec{x} \cdot \left (\vec{E} + \frac{\vec{v}}{c} \times \vec{b} \right )=-\frac{1}{c} \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d} t} \int_{A} \mathrm{d}^2 \vec{F} \cdot \vec{B}.$$ Here $\vec{v}=\vec{v}(t,\vec{x})$ is the velocity of each point at the surface-boundary line. The left-hand side thus gives you the complete electromotive force, including the one due to the magnetic field.