How Much Force Can a Human Femur Withstand Before Breaking?

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The discussion revolves around the maximum force that a human femur can withstand before breaking, utilizing concepts from material science, specifically Young's modulus and stress. Participants are exploring the relationship between force, area, and stress in the context of bone mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate the maximum force based on given values of Young's modulus and maximum stress. Questions are raised regarding the interpretation of these values and their application in calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations and clarified the distinction between Young's modulus and maximum stress. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the given values, with some confusion expressed about their relevance.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the definitions of stress and Young's modulus, and how they relate to the calculations being performed. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the purpose of the provided values.

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Young's modulus for bone is 1.5x10^10 N/m^2 and that bone will fracture if more than 1.5X10^8 N/m^2 is exerted.

What is the max force that can be exerted on the femur if the effective diameter is 2.5cm?

[tex]Y=F/A[/tex]
[tex]1.50x10^8N/m^2 =\frac{F}{\pi (0.0125m^2)^2}[/tex]
[tex]F=73631N[/tex]

is that correct?

if this force is applied compressively, by how much does the 25cm long bone shorten?

[tex]\Delta L=\frac{FL}{AY}[/tex]
[tex]\Delta L=\frac{73631N*0.25m}{\pi (0.0125m^2)^2 * 1.5x10^{10} N/m^2}[/tex]
[tex]\Delta L=0.0025m[/tex]

I think I did some of this wrong but I'm not sure how to approch these problems. Any guidance?
 
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UrbanXrisis said:
[tex]Y=F/A[/tex]
[tex]1.50x10^8N/m^2 =\frac{F}{\pi (0.0125m^2)^2}[/tex]
[tex]F=73631N[/tex]

is that correct?
Yes. But realize that 1.5x10^8 N/m^2 is not Y (which stands for Young's modulus) but is the maximum stress the bone can support. (Stress = F/A). Also: round off to a sensible number of significant figures.

if this force is applied compressively, by how much does the 25cm long bone shorten?

[tex]\Delta L=\frac{FL}{AY}[/tex]
[tex]\Delta L=\frac{73631N*0.25m}{\pi (0.0125m^2)^2 * 1.5x10^{10} N/m^2}[/tex]
[tex]\Delta L=0.0025m[/tex]
Looks good. But realize you could have saved a bit of arithmetic by starting with the maximum stress (F/A) instead of the force.
 
so what was the point in giving me [tex]1.5X10^8 N/m^2[/tex]? Was that to throw me off?
 
I don't understand your question. You were given two numbers: max stress and Young's modulus. You used them both.
 

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