How Do Cartesian Components Transform into Cylindrical Coordinates?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the transformation of Cartesian components of vectors into cylindrical coordinates, particularly focusing on the tensor transformation law. Participants are exploring the correct representation of vectors in different coordinate systems and clarifying their understanding of the transformation process.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about transforming a vector from Cartesian coordinates (x, y, z) to cylindrical coordinates, suggesting they obtained (r, 0, z) instead of the expected (r, phi, z).
  • Another participant questions the validity of reducing three variables to two, implying a misunderstanding of the dimensionality involved in the transformation.
  • A third participant clarifies the representation of a vector in Cartesian components and its equivalent in cylindrical components, indicating the need for proper transformation.
  • One participant seeks to understand the tensor transformation law through a concrete example, asking for clarification on the outcome of applying the law.
  • Another participant requests details about the specific tensor transformation law being used and the calculations involved.
  • A later reply provides a formula for converting Cartesian coordinates to cylindrical coordinates, indicating the components should be (√(x² + y²), arctan(y/x), z).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views on the correct transformation process and the interpretation of the components involved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the transformation process and the definitions of the coordinate systems. Some participants may not fully agree on the dimensionality and representation of the vectors.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals learning about tensor transformations, coordinate systems, and vector representations in physics and mathematics.

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Hi.

I’ve just started learning about tensors on my own and am still trying to understand coordinate transformations.

If I begin with a vector whose Cartesian components are (x, y, z) and apply the tensor transformation to cylindrical polars, I end up with (r, 0, z) – is this right? I anticipated (r, phi, z) – have I made an error or am I not understanding something?

Please help!
 
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i am not sure what you are doing, but it seems fishy to go from three variables to two. i.e. from a description of three space, to a description of a piece of the plane
 
It seems you wish to write a vector [tex]\vec V[/tex]
given in rectangular components
[tex]\vec V= V_x \hat x + V_y \hat y + V_z \hat z[/tex]
in terms of cylindrical polar components
[tex]\vec V=V_r \hat r + V_\phi \hat \phi + V_z \hat z[/tex].
 
I am trying to understand the tensor transformation law by applying it directly to a concrete example. If [tex]\vec V=V_x \hat x + V_y \hat \y + V_z \hat z[/tex] then what do I end up with once I have applied the law?
 
Could you show the tensor transformation law you are using and the details of your calculation?
 
I'm not clear what it is exactly you're trying to do.

If you start out with a vector with compoents in caretsian cooridnates of (x,y,z) the coponents in cylindrical coordinates are (√(x^2 + y^2),arctan(y/x),z)
 

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