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Torsion spring problem

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freshcoast
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May6-13, 03:14 PM
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1. Problem statement.


2. Relative formulas
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_spring

3. Attempt.
Part a)
Since I am given the arc length S and radius, I use the equation s = r(theta) and I solve for theta, with r being the length of the rod and the addition of the radius of the ball.

Now I need to find torque, which is given since I know the radius and the force.

Now applying the equation t = k(theta) , I just solve for k.

Part b)
For this part I need to find the center of mass of the solid sphere (2/5mr^2) and I added distance from the axis of rotation by parallel axis theorem (ML^2)

Now I can find the period by using the equation 2(pi) * sqrt(I/k) since I have I and K.

Part c)
I'm thinking the work done by bending the spring would just be the equation 1/2k(theta^2)
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May6-13, 06:06 PM
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Part b)
For this part I need to find the center of mass of the solid sphere (2/5mr^2) and I added distance from the axis of rotation by parallel axis theorem (ML^2)
Be careful here. When the sphere has moved through an arc of θ, it will have rotated about its centre by rather more. This is because the rod is not a rigid rod sprung at its base.
Your answer for part c seems right.
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Be careful here. When the sphere has moved through an arc of θ, it will have rotated about its centre by rather more. This is because the rod is not a rigid rod sprung at its base.
Hmm, I am having trouble understanding this. The Moment of inertia of a solid sphere is (2/5 * MR^2) and you're saying that since the rod it is connected to is not a rigid rod, it would have rotated about its center more? I don't see what changes in my attempt, is the parallel axis theorem still valid? I think the ML^2 is for solid cylinders, is that the value that need's to be modified?

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you're saying that since the rod it is connected to is not a rigid rod, it would have rotated about its center more? I don't see what changes in my attempt, is the parallel axis theorem still valid?
It is and it isn't, depending on how you are applying it.
If you think of the motion of the ball as consisting of two components, one about its mass centre, plus the motion of its mass centre about the base of the rod, then it has two corresponding moments of inertia, ml2 and 2mr2/5. In general, these two motions can have different angular accelerations, αl and αr. The total torque would then be αlml2 + 2αrmr2/5. In the common case, the two angular accelerations are the same, producing the usual parallel axis theorem result: αm(l2 + 2r2/5). But here they will be different.
With a little calculus, I can show that for small oscillations αr = 3αl/2. However, this is the third problem I've seen that you have posted from this source, and the other two both had serious flaws in their descriptions. So I'm not sure whether you are supposed to go into this level of analysis or treat the rod as rigid.


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