Definite Integrals: Solving an Easy Integral with Acceleration a=2 m/s^2

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The discussion revolves around solving integrals related to motion under constant acceleration, specifically with an acceleration of 2 m/s². Participants are exploring how to derive velocity and position from acceleration using definite integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the integration of acceleration to find velocity and then position. There are questions about maintaining functional dependence in the equations and the correct interpretation of variables. Some participants suggest using boundary conditions to determine constants in the equations.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations and methods being proposed. Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the integration process, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the original post. There is no explicit consensus on a single method yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the notation and the physical meaning of the variables involved, particularly concerning units and constants. Participants are also navigating the implications of using specific values for initial conditions.

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I don't know how to solve this really easy integral.

suppose: [tex]a=2 m/s^2[/tex]

[tex]a = dv / dt[/tex]

[tex]\int^b_a a \ dt = \int^b_a dv[/tex]

[tex]\int^b_a 2 \ dt = v_{b} - v_{a}[/tex]

[tex]2t_{b} - 2t_{a} = v_{b} - v_{a}[/tex]

[tex]v_{b} = v_{a} + 2t_{b} - 2t_{a}[/tex]

I hope everything is ok up to this point. Then I want to know the position: r, and I need to use the same b and a that I have already use before, but...

[tex]v = dr / dt[/tex]

[tex]\int^b_a v \ dt = \int^b_a dr[/tex]

[tex]\int^b_a ( v_{a} + 2t_{b} - 2t_{a} ) \ dt = r_{b} - r_{a}[/tex]

[tex]v_{a}t_{b} - v_{a}t_{b} ... \ ? = r_{b} - r_{a}[/tex]
 
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In your first expression for a, is m the mass and s the displacement? Or is s just a constant?
 
It looks like you're trying to find the velocity and position of an object under accelaeration 2 m/sec^2 at a time tb in terms of its velocity at some earlier time ta. If so, you found vb correctly. But to get the position, you need to integrate the velocity as a function of time, not the velocity at tb. To get v(t), just replace tb with the variable t.
 
a = 2 m/s^2

First part is OK. But when you did the second part you need a general form of v to do the diferentiation. This is how I would do this:

[tex]d^2 r/dt^2 = a[/tex]

Integrating once, you have

[tex]dr/dt = a t + A[/tex] --------------------(1)

where A is a constant and we can find A using the boundary conditions. You have been given at time t = ta , v = va.

so, [tex]v_a = a t_a + A => A = v_a - a t_a[/tex]

so [tex]v(t) = at + ( v_a - a t_a)[/tex]

Integrate (1) wrt t

[tex]r = at^2/2 + At + B[/tex] -----------------(2)

where B is a constant and can be found as earlier using Boundary conditions. at t=ta, r = ra .

[tex]r_a = at_a^2/2 + At_a + B[/tex]

Solve for B and subtitute in (2) to get an expression for r(t)
 
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Because velocity "v" is a function of time "t", which is indicated by writing it "v(t)", you need to maintain the functional dependence of v(t) into the second set of integrations. Your original work is rewritten below in a manner to do that. Also, equations become more managable if {ta=0}.

QUESTION: What is the distance "r(t)" traveled from time t=0 to time "t" (for constant acceleration "a")??

[tex]a \ = \ dv/dt[/tex]

[tex]\int^{t}_{0} a \ dt \ = \ \int^{v(t)}_{v(0)} \ dv[/tex]

[tex]at \ = \ v(t) - v(0)[/tex]

[tex]\color{blue} v(t) \ = \ v(0) + at[/tex]


[tex]v \ = \ dr/dt[/tex]

[tex]\int^{t}_{0} v(t) \ dt \ = \ \int^{r(t)}_{r(0)} \ dr[/tex]

[tex]\int^{t}_{0} \color{blue}\left( v(0) + at \right)\color{black} \ dt \ = \ r(t) - r(0)[/tex]

[tex]v(0)t + (1/2)at^{2} \ = \ r(t) - r(0)[/tex]

[tex]\color{red} r(t) \ = \ r(0) + v(0)t + (1/2)at^{2}[/tex]

Now place {a=(2 m/sec^2)} and values for "r(0)" and "v(0)" into the equation for the final result.


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James R said:
In your first expression for a, is m the mass and s the displacement? Or is s just a constant?

:confused:. Those are units..
 
Those are units..

Ah! I completely misread. It's a = 2 metres per second squared. Silly me! I think I just assumed that since the rest of the post was in terms of variables, the acceleration was in terms of variables, too.

I'd do this similarly to how Gamma did it, above.
 

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