Calculating Volume of Cylinder with Double Integrals

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of a cylinder using double integrals, specifically addressing the formula V = ∑ V_i = ∑ f(P_i)ΔS_i, where f(P_i) represents the height of the cylinder above the area D_i in the xy-plane. It is established that for a standard cylinder, the function f is constant across the area D, simplifying the volume calculation. The conversation also clarifies that for irregular shapes, the approximation without taking the limit as n approaches infinity would not yield the exact volume. The relationship between double and triple integrals is also discussed, emphasizing the transition from triple integrals to double integrals when defining the volume above a surface.

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To calculate the volume of a cylinder that has as its bottom (or top) end the area [itex]D[/itex] in the xy-plane, we divide [itex]D[/itex] into [itex]n[/itex] smaller areas [itex]D_i (i=1;...;n)[/itex]. The function [itex]f(x,y)[/itex] is defined at every point [itex]P(x,y)[/itex] of [itex]D[/itex], in short [itex]f(P)[/itex]. So, to find the volume [itex]V_i[/itex] that is above an area [itex]D_i[/itex], we use the formula [itex]V_i=f(P_i)\Delta S_i[/itex], where [itex]f(P_i)[/itex] is the height of the cylinder above [itex]D_i[/itex] and [itex]\Delta S_i[/itex] is the area of [itex]D_i[/itex]. Now to get the volume of the space above [itex]D[/itex], we calculate [itex]V=\sum_{i=1}^n f(P_i)}\Delta S_i[/itex].

Now this is what I don't understand: How can one get the volume above [itex]D_i[/itex] from just [itex]P_i[/itex]? Is it assumed that [itex]f(P_i)[/itex] is constant everywhere for some [itex]D_i[/itex], so that [itex]f(P_i)[/itex] won't have different values depending on where in [itex]D_i[/itex] we choose [itex]P_i[/itex]?

In the definition of the double integral they (the book) say that [itex]n \to \infty[/itex], which is understandable. However, before ever getting to double intergrals, they give the formula for [itex]V[/itex], w/o [itex]n\to\infty[/itex].

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
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Kamataat said:
Is it assumed that [itex]f(P_i)[/itex] is constant everywhere for some [itex]D_i[/itex], so that [itex]f(P_i)[/itex] won't have different values depending on where in [itex]D_i[/itex] we choose [itex]P_i[/itex]?

Well, if the volume you are trying to compute is that of an ordinary cylinder, then f not only IS constant over each Di, f is constant over D, and it is the constant function f(x) = h where h is the height of the cylinder.

So the sum w/o n --> infty does indeed give the exact value of the volume.


However, it the volume you were trying to compute was that of a truncated cylinder or any other irregular form, then the sum w/o n --> infty would only be an approximation of the volume and an infinity of Di would have been required to get the exact value.
 
As you know, if we want to get the area of the surface D, we just perform the integral:

[tex]\int\int dx dy[/tex]

And in the same way, if we want to find the volume using the Triple Integrals we are going to perform the integral:

[tex]\int\int\int dx dy dz[/tex]

So when you release the triple integral when you define the z from the surface xy-plane to any function you want f(x,y) you get:

[tex]\int\int\int dx dy dz = \int_{a}^b \int_{y_1(x)}^{y_2(x)} \int_{0}^{f(x,y)} dzdydx[/tex]

and doing a first step will give:

[tex]\int_{a}^b \int_{y_1(x)}^{y_2(x)} f(x,y) dy dx[/tex]

Here you can see that we got the double integral you talked about, so we can consider the double integral for a volume a second step for the triple integral which begins from z=0 to z=f(x,y),

I hope my explanation let you understand, if you have just started with integrals be patient, later you will get everything clear with triple integrals,
 

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