Solving Geometric Series: Find x Values |r|<1

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of x for which specific geometric series converge. The original poster presents a series and identifies the common ratio, leading to a condition involving the modulus of the ratio.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the process of expressing the modulus condition and how to manipulate inequalities. There is an exploration of the implications of the modulus in the context of the geometric series convergence.

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Some participants have provided clarifications on manipulating the modulus and have guided the original poster towards the next steps in solving the inequalities. There is an ongoing exploration of the geometric interpretation of the conditions presented.

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There are references to terminology from high school mathematics, indicating a potential gap in understanding the current problem's language. The original poster expresses some confusion about the next steps in the problem-solving process.

Briggs
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I am having a little trouble with some questions on geometric series'
For example, Find the values of x for which the following geometric series converge
I have done the first one easy enough
[tex]2+4x+8x^2+16x^3...[/tex]
[tex]r=2x[/tex]
[tex]|r|<1[/tex]
[tex]|x|<\frac{1}_{2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{-1}{2} < x < \frac{1}_{2}[/tex]

But then it gets more difficult and adds more to the question for example
[tex]5+25(3x+4)+125(3x+4)^2[/tex]
I get [tex]r=5(3x+4)[/tex]
so [tex]|5(3x+4)|<1[/tex]

But then I am stuck as to what to do next any hints on how to go about these questions would be appreciated.
 
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It's the same kind of story to explicitate the modulus...

[tex]\left|a\right|<b\Leftrightarrow -b<a<b[/tex]

Thankfully,the ratio is linear in "x"...

Daniel.

EDIT:Halls,this is the kind of terminology i had been used to in high school.Always the teacher said about "modulus explicitation" (sic!)...
 
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"explicate the modulus"?? Wow! Them big words is too much for me!

Briggs, what dextercioby means is: |5(3x+4)|< 1 is exactly the same as

-1< 5(3x+4)< 1. Now solve for x.
 
HallsofIvy said:
"explicate the modulus"??

It's explicitate! :-p
 
Thanks for the help, it seems quite simple now that you have shown me the next step, I get

[tex]-1<15x+20<1[/tex]

[tex]\frac{-1-20}{15}<x<\frac{1-20}{15}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{-7}{5}<x<\frac{-19}{15}[/tex]

Which is the correct answer so thanks a lot for the help :smile:
 
To help vizualize this geometrically, imagine a point P on the number line. Then, all points X that are strictly inside a distance d from the fixed point P, are given by the equation : |X-P| < d

In other words, this means that X is the set of points in (P-d, P+d). This follows directly from the definition of the modulus :

Definition : |x| = x if x > 0 and |x| = -x if x <= 0

Derivation of Geometric Statement : |X-P| = X-P if X > P and |X-P| = P - X, otherwise (from def'n.)

In the first case (when X > P), |X-P| < d means that X-P < d or X < P+d. So : P < X < P+d

In the second case (when X <= P) |X-P| < d means that P-X < d or X > P-d. So : P-d < X <= P

Combining the above two cases, you see that |X-P| < d gives P-d < X < P+d.

Example : |ax + b| < d is the same as writing |ax - (-b)| < d, which translates as "the distance of points ax from the point b is less than d. So, b-d < ax < b+d, or (b-d)/a < x < (b+d)/a
 

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