Figuring out the acidic % of a certain food

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The discussion revolves around methods for determining the acidic percentage of solid foods, particularly focusing on practical laboratory techniques such as titration and pH measurement. Participants explore the challenges of measuring acidity in solids compared to liquids.

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  • One participant inquires about the easiest method to determine the acidic percentage of solid foods, suggesting titration as a potential approach.
  • Another participant questions the term "acidic %" and suggests that pH might be the intended measure.
  • A method is proposed involving weighing the food, dissolving it in water, and titrating with dilute sodium hydroxide to find the number of equivalents of acid present.
  • Concerns are raised about how to effectively dissolve solid foods like pickles, with suggestions to grind them into smaller pieces for better dissolution.
  • A participant explains that pH relates to the dissociation constant of an acid and emphasizes that different preparations of the same food may yield different pH values.
  • Further clarification is provided on the process of pulverizing the food, soaking it, and filtering to collect the resulting solution for pH measurement.
  • A health-related perspective is introduced, discussing the implications of food acidity on conditions like heartburn and suggesting vinegar as a common acidic component in pickles.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the insights shared, indicating that the discussion has clarified their confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and considerations for measuring acidity, but no consensus is reached on a single best approach. Different viewpoints on the definition of acidity and its measurement in solids versus liquids remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for specific knowledge about the type of acid present in the food to accurately calculate its percentage. The discussion also highlights potential variations in pH based on the physical state of the food.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in food science, chemistry, or those exploring practical laboratory techniques for measuring acidity in various food types.

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what's the easiest way to go abouts figuring (using basic lab tools) out the acidic % of a certain type of food, especially if it's a solid not a liquid. Would you still titrate it somehow? Help! please! Thanks
 
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chris111 said:
especially if it's a solid not a liquid.
Weigh the food then dissolve it in water. Titrate with very dilute sodium hydroxide.That will tell the number of equivalents. If you know what acid you are looking for (citric in lemons?), you can turn that equivalence into moles, then into mass. Divide the mass of the acid by the mass of the entire thing you dissolved then multiply by 100 and you have % acid.
 
But how would i "Dissolve the item in water"...lets say it's a pickle? Would I just grind it up till its in smaller chunks? Would that be an accurate way? thanks for ur help btw.
 
Acidity in terms of pH pertains to that of an agent's dissociation constant (in relevance to hydronium ions).

As far as the pH of a solid food of any type is concerned, you would simply dissolve the agent in water...if you wish to find the pH of sliced pickels you would do the same, each of them may correspond to different pHs.

If you were concerned about the pH contribution of sliced pickels v.s. larger chunks of these pickels, dissolve both in water and properly calculate pH. The same with any other situation, pH=-log[H30+], each situation will have its own pH.
 
chris111 said:
But how would i "Dissolve the item in water"...lets say it's a pickle? Would I just grind it up till its in smaller chunks? Would that be an accurate way? thanks for ur help btw.
I'd pulverize it thoroughly, soak it, then put it in a funnel with filter paper and wash it, collecting the water.
 
In a health perspective this question is somewhat relevant, one with heartburn might want to know the effect of eating a pickel, or rather the contribution of the pickel in further damaging the inner lining of the esophagus (not quite sure about the biology). The straightforward answer would probably be that, the acid component of a pickel is vinegar, thus in don't eat pickels whether sliced, cubed, or in any shape and size.

Thus calculate or look up the pH of vinegar, or try squeezing it out of the pickel, pickel itself is not a compound :smile: so you won't determine the pH of it persay.
 
awsome, you guys really know your chem. I was just confused by the whole situation, but that helps a lot! thanks
 

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