Integrate x^2/Sqrt[1 - x^2] - Solve 0=0

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral of the function \( \frac{x^2}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} \) with a focus on different methods of integration, specifically integration by parts and trigonometric substitution. Participants explore how to approach the integral and clarify their reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to find the integral \( \int \frac{x^2}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} \, dx \) and expresses confusion about integration by parts leading to an identity \( 0=0 \).
  • Another participant suggests using the substitution \( x = \sin u \) and mentions a trigonometric identity involving a double angle as a potential method.
  • Integration by parts is proposed as an alternative method, with a participant providing the formula \( \int u \, dv = uv - \int v \, du \) and suggesting specific choices for \( u \) and \( dv \).
  • Clarifications are made regarding the correct assignment of \( u \) and \( dv \) in the integration by parts formula, with a participant correcting a previous statement about these assignments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to solving the integral, including trigonometric substitution and integration by parts. There is no consensus on the best method, and some participants clarify and correct each other's statements without resolving the overall approach.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved details regarding the application of integration by parts, particularly in the assignment of \( u \) and \( dv \). The discussion does not fully explore the implications of the \( 0=0 \) identity mentioned by the initial poster.

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[tex]\!\(∫x^2/Sqrt[1 - x^2] \[DifferentialD]x\)[/tex]

I need to find the integral of
(x^2)/ Sqrt(1-(x^2))
if the above doesn't work properly
integration by parts results in 0=0 how do i do this?
 
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You mean

[tex]\int \frac{x^{2}}{\sqrt{1-x^{2}}} \ dx[/tex]

How about the substitution [itex]x=\sin u [/tex] and then a nice trigonometrical identity involving a double angle...?<br /> <br /> Daniel.[/itex]
 
ok, i got it using x= sinU
can you give me a hint how to do it using integration by parts?
 
Integration by parts uses

[tex]\int u \ dv = uv - \int v \ du[/tex]

choose [itex]u = x[/itex] and

[tex]v = \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}[/tex]

Edit: That should be [itex]dv = (x / \sqrt{1-x^2}) \ dx[/itex]!
 
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Not really,Data.U needn't specify "u" & "v",but the factors in the LHS,"u" & "dv"...

So

[tex]u=x \ \mbox{and} \ dv=\frac{x}{\sqrt{1-x^{2}}} \ dx[/tex]

Daniel.

P.S.Data,u see the difference,right...?:rolleyes:
 
indeed, silly me :-p~
 
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