How Do You Set Up Limits for a Triple Integral Involving a Cylinder and Planes?

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The discussion revolves around setting up limits for triple integrals involving geometric shapes, specifically a cylinder defined by the equation x² + y² = 4 and planes z = 0 and x + z = 3. Participants are exploring how to correctly establish the bounds for integration in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the limits of integration for the z-variable, suggesting it ranges from 0 to 3 - x. They also explore the y-limits derived from the cylinder equation and the x-limits from -2 to 2. Some participants consider using cylindrical coordinates to simplify the integration process.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the limits of integration with some participants expressing confidence in their approaches. Others suggest alternative methods, such as cylindrical coordinates, to facilitate the integration. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the amount of direct assistance provided. There is also a new problem introduced regarding a different triple integral, indicating a shift in focus within the thread.

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Ok I hve a triple integral problem for find the area of the following:

cylinder: [tex]x^2 + y^2 = 4[/tex]

plane: [tex]z = 0[/tex]

plane: [tex]x + z = 3[/tex]

It is a cylinder cut at the xy-plane and by the last plane. It looks like a circular wedge standing straight up from the xy-plane.

I just can't figure out the limits of integration, I know the last variable integrated must have limits that are constants. I just don't know what to do! Help me please! :-p
 
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Here is what I have so far

By solving the equation [tex]x + z = 3[/tex] for Z, [tex]z = 3 - x[/tex] I can get the z-limits to be from [tex]0[/tex] to [tex]3 - x[/tex], right?

I then solve [tex]x^2 + y^2 = 4[/tex] out to be [tex]y = \pm \sqrt{4 - x^2}[/tex], and those are the y-limits?

After that, the x-limits are from [tex]-2[/tex] to [tex]2[/tex], right?

Here is that in integral form: [tex]\int_{-2}^{2} \int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4 - x^2}} \int_{0}^{3 - x} dz dy dx = 12\pi[/tex]

Am I on the right track here?
 
VinnyCee said:
By solving the equation [tex]x + z = 3[/tex] for Z, [tex]z = 3 - x[/tex] I can get the z-limits to be from [tex]0[/tex] to [tex]3 - x[/tex], right?

I then solve [tex]x^2 + y^2 = 4[/tex] out to be [tex]y = \pm \sqrt{4 - x^2}[/tex], and those are the y-limits?

After that, the x-limits are from [tex]-2[/tex] to [tex]2[/tex], right?

Here is that in integral form: [tex]\int_{-2}^{2} \int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4 - x^2}} \int_{0}^{3 - x} dz dy dx = 12\pi[/tex]

Am I on the right track here?

It looks perfect. :smile:

If you use cylindrical coordinates: r, phi, z, the integration becomes easier. In these coordinates

[tex]x=\cos\phi[/tex]
[tex]y= \sin \phi[/tex]
[tex]z=z[/tex],

the volume element is

[tex]dV= r d \phi dr dz[/tex]

and your boundaries are

[tex]0 \le z \le 3-x = 3 - r \ cos\phi[/tex]

[tex]0 \le \phi \le 2\pi[/tex]

[tex]0 \le r \le 2[/tex]

So you have to calculate the integral

[tex]\int_{0}^{2} \int_{0}^{2\pi}} \int_{0}^{3 - r \cos(\phi)}r dz d\phi dr[/tex]
 
Here is the triple integral solved step-by-step

[tex]V = \int_{-2}^{2} \int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4 - x^2}} \int_{0}^{3 - x} dz\; dy\; dx = \int_{-2}^{2} \int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4 - x^2}} \left[ z \right]_{0}^{3 - x} dy\; dx = \int_{-2}^{2} \int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4 - x^2}} \left[(3 - x) - (0)\right] dy\; dx = \int_{-2}^{2} \int_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4 - x^2}} (3 - x) dy\; dx[/tex]

[tex]V = \int_{-2}^{2} \left[3y - xy\right]_{-\sqrt{4-x^2}}^{\sqrt{4 - x^2}} dx = \int_{-2}^{2} \biggl\{\left[3\left(\sqrt{4 - x^2}\right) - x\left(\sqrt{4 - x^2}\right)\right] - \left[3\left(-\sqrt{4 - x^2}\right) - x\left(-\sqrt{4 - x^2}\right)\right]\biggl\} dx[/tex]

[tex]V = \int_{-2}^{2} \left(6 \sqrt{4 - x^2} - 2x \sqrt{4 - x^2}\right) dx = 6 \int_{-2}^{2} \left(4 - x^2\right)^{\frac{1}{2}}\; dx + \int_{-2}^{2} -2x \sqrt{4 - x^2}\; dx[/tex]

[tex]u = 4 - x^2[/tex] and [tex]du = -2x dx[/tex] for that second integral.

[tex]V = 6\left[\frac{2}{2}\sqrt{4 - x^2} + \frac{4}{2}\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)\right]_{-2}^{2} +\; 2\left[\frac{2}{3}\left(4 - x^2\right)^{\frac{3}{2}}\right]_{-2}^{2}[/tex]

[tex]V = 6\biggl\{\left{\sqrt{4 - 4} + 2 \sin^{-1}\left(-1\right)\right] - \left[\sqrt{4 - 4} + 2\sin^{-1}\left(1\right)\right]\biggl\} + 2\biggl\{\left[\frac{2}{3} \left(4 - 2^2\right)\right] - \left[\frac{2}{3} \left(4-(-2)^2\right)\right]\biggl\}[/tex]

[tex]V = 6\left(2\pi\right) + 2\left(0\right) = 12\pi[/tex]

Does this check out? Should I post a graph?
 
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Ok, a new triple integral

Did I do this new Problem correctly? :bugeye: :

Find volume of the region in the first octant bounded by the plane [tex]y = 1 - x[/tex] and the surface [tex]z = \cos\left(\frac{\pi\;x}{2}\right)[/tex]. And [tex]0\;\le x \;\le1[/tex].

Integral:

[tex]\int_{0}^{1} \int_{0}}^{1 - x} \int_{0}^{\cos\bigl\(\frac{\pi\;x}{2}}\bigl\)}\;dz\;dy\;dx = \frac{4}{\pi^2}[/tex]
 
Anyone double check the last calculation yet?
 
VinnyCee said:
Anyone double check the last calculation yet?

It looks all right.

ehild
 
That is indeed correct

marlon
 
Many thanks

Thank you ehild and marlon. I am never sure of some of these calc problems!
 

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