Thermodynamics Block of Copper Problem

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The problem involves a thermodynamic scenario with a 50g block of copper at 400K and a 100g block of lead at 200K placed in an insulating box. The objective is to determine the equilibrium temperature of the system, as well as the changes in internal energy and entropy during the process.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula Q=mcT to find the equilibrium temperature and seeks guidance on how to approach part a of the problem. Some participants suggest calculating the heat changes for each block to determine equilibrium. Others raise questions about the calculations and the assumptions made regarding heat transfer.

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Participants are exploring various methods to calculate the equilibrium temperature and discussing the heat transfer between the blocks. There is an ongoing exchange of calculations and interpretations, with some participants questioning the results obtained and seeking further clarification on the internal energy calculations for subsequent parts of the problem.

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There is uncertainty regarding the calculations of the equilibrium temperature, with participants noting discrepancies in their results. The discussion also touches on the assumptions related to the insulating nature of the box and the sign conventions in thermodynamics.

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Hi, I need help with this problem for physics. I know it has something to do with Q=mcT. I can probably do parts b and c if I just get a start on part a. I'm just not sure how to approach it. Any help is appreciated. =)

A 50g block of copper having a temperature of 400K is placed in an insulating box with a 100g block of lead having a temperature of 200K. a) What is the equilibrium temperature of this two-block system? b) What is the change in the internal energy of the two-block system as it goes from the initial condition to the equilibrium condition? c) What is the change in the entropy of the two-block system?

Thanks in advance,
Cara
 
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Actually part a) is the simplest.Compute the heat each body need to change (either accept or receive) in order to reach equilibrium.Then use the "insulating box" part...

Daniel.
 
Well I just calculated that the initial heat of the copper is 7720J and the initial heat of the lead is 2560J, but how would I calculate how much heat they need to accept or receive in order to reach equilibrium?
 
U have a copper block at 400K and this cools till he reaches equilibrium temp:x (unknown).

The heat lost is

[tex]Q_{lost}=m_{Co}c_{Co}\left(400-x\right) \ [J][/tex]

The lead block heats from 200K till equilibrium temp."x".

The heat received

[tex]Q_{received}=m_{Pb}c_{Pb}\left(x-200\right) \ [J][/tex]


What is the connection between the 2#-s (i used no sign convention:both #-s are positive (i hate sign conventions in thermo & geom.optics)) ??

Daniel.
 
Sorry I stopped posting after. I had to run out really quick unexpectedly. I did what you said and I got 794K as an equilibrium temperature, but that doesn't make sense. Maybe I did it wrong? You probably aren't there anymore but if you aren't, if someone else wants to help me that would be awesome.
 
actually I take that back, I got 317K now. So then would that be the answer for part a?

Also, when I do get the equilibrium temp. for part (a), for part (b) would I find the change in internal energy for each block and add the two values together? And as far as finding that, what would be the best equation to use?

would I use an internal energy equation for an isochoric system?
 
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I'm just trying to get this thread back up higher since I'm not getting any responses. I still need some help. I'd really appreciate it!
 

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