Clarification of relativity that makes the quantum world possible

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The discussion centers on the application of relativity to explain phenomena in the quantum world, specifically through the example of a stationary laser light source and two observers—one stationary and one moving at 80% of the speed of light. The moving observer perceives the laser light striking the stationary observer before it actually reaches him due to the relativity of simultaneity. This principle illustrates how different frames of reference can lead to varying perceptions of time and events, which is crucial for understanding quantum mechanics, where particles exist in multiple states and probabilities govern their behavior.

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carl fischbach
I worked on this problem a few years ago and
remembered an important detail of how I applied
relalivity to explain the quantum world.
You take a powerful stationary laser light source
that diverges slightly and fire it at a stationary
observer 30,000,000 kilometers away. Then you have
a moving an observer traveling 80% of c that is
somewhere between the laser light source and the
stationary observer,when the laser is fired,travelling in a straight line
towards the stationary observer.The moving
observer is positioned so he arives next
the stationary observer when the laser light
source strikes the moving observer from
the moving observer's eyes.From the stationary
observer's eyes at the same instance the light
has yet to strike him.The key here is that the
moving observer will see the light strike the
the stationary observer at this instance even
though in the stationary observers eyes it has
yet to strike him.Now say the stationary observer
moves out of the path of light after the
moving observer passes him by, the light will
miss the stationary observer in his eyes, yet in
eyes of the moving obsever the light struck
the stationary observer.Which led me to draw this
conclusion if the stationary obsever remained
stationary then the moving obsever would have
seen his future,if the stationary observer moved
out of the path of light,then the moving observer
would have seen a future possibility that did not happen.
 
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Your conclusion is fallacious, for a start you've ignored the failure of simultaneity at distance, an instant is meanigless it's only useful to talk about events that happen at certain locations in space-time.
 


The concept of relativity is crucial in understanding and explaining the quantum world. In the example given, the use of relativity allows for an explanation of how the moving observer can see the light strike the stationary observer before it actually reaches him. This is possible because of the relativity of simultaneity, which states that two events that appear simultaneous to one observer may not appear simultaneous to another observer in a different frame of reference.

In this scenario, the stationary observer and the moving observer are in different frames of reference due to their different velocities. The moving observer is traveling at 80% of the speed of light, which causes time dilation and length contraction. This means that time is passing slower for the moving observer and distances appear shorter. As a result, the moving observer perceives events differently than the stationary observer.

In the case of the laser light striking the stationary observer, the moving observer sees it happen before the stationary observer because of the relativity of simultaneity. The moving observer's perception of time and distance is different, causing them to see events in a different order than the stationary observer.

This concept of relativity is what makes the quantum world possible. In the quantum world, particles can exist in multiple states simultaneously, and their behavior is described by probabilities rather than definite outcomes. This is because at the quantum level, the principles of relativity apply and can cause different observers to perceive events differently.

In summary, the use of relativity in explaining the quantum world is essential in understanding how events can appear simultaneous to one observer but not to another. The example given highlights how relativity allows for different perceptions of time and distance, leading to a better understanding of the quantum world.
 

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