Problems with lagged turbo and exhaust systems

In summary, the conversation discusses the potential failure of turbo and exhaust systems due to lagging. It is suggested that lagging can cause excess heat to fry the turbo bearings, leading to early failure. The solution for this issue is to let the engine idle for a minute before turning it off or adding an oil reservoir to the bearing circuit. The presence of oil inside the turbine unit indicates an expansion issue and it is recommended to keep the compressor section cool to prevent this. Specialized oil formulations can also be used to maintain viscosity at higher temperatures.
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beckliam4
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hello,
does anyone know if lagging a turbo and exhaust system would cause failure of the turbo. my thought is that on the lagged turbos the heat can not disperse causing early failure due to expansion of the casing, bearings and shafts. could it also effect the oil viscosity ?

any thoughts please,

DAL
 
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Not sure if it helps any, but the first generation of auto engine turbos about 25 years back had the problem of excess heat frying the turbo bearings after engine shutdown. So the suggestion was to not turn off the engine right after driving, but to let it idle for a minute. Longer term, I believe the fix was to add a little oil reservoir to the bearing circuit, so the system could cope with the extra heat.
Given that the exhaust gas turbine which drives the compressor can run red hot, it is unlikely that lagging the components will introduce extraordinary additional stresses.
 
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thanks for that, were having problems with our turbos after being lagged this is a resent upgrade. after we run them up were finding oil inside the unit where the turbine is any thoughts.
 
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Oil inside the turbine unit pretty much has to come from the bearings, so there is an expansion issue in your case.
Usually in these installations one tries to keep the compressor section as cool as possible, no matter what the turbine temperature, so the bearing does not see the full turbine heat.
So there might be some improvement if the bearing is left uncovered, so it can cool down at a better pace, but it may impact the lagging installation.
Separately, you are quite right that the oil viscosity declines substantially at higher temperatures. There are specialized formulations that maintain their properties at higher temperatures, used in aero engines particularly.
You may need to consider these if you cannot fix the problem with alterations to the setup.
 
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I can say that lagging a turbo and exhaust system can indeed cause problems and potential failure of the turbo. The purpose of lagging is to reduce heat loss and improve the efficiency of the turbo, but if not done properly, it can trap too much heat and cause the components to expand and fail prematurely. This can also affect the oil viscosity, as excessive heat can break down the oil and reduce its ability to lubricate the turbo's moving parts. It is important to carefully consider the design and materials used for lagging to ensure proper heat management and avoid potential damage to the turbo.
 

1. What is lag in turbo and exhaust systems?

Lag in turbo and exhaust systems refers to the delay in response time between pressing the accelerator pedal and the actual increase in engine power. This is caused by the time it takes for exhaust gases to flow through the turbocharger and create the necessary boost pressure.

2. What are the common problems associated with lag in turbo and exhaust systems?

Some of the common problems associated with lag in turbo and exhaust systems include reduced engine performance, slower acceleration, and decreased fuel efficiency. It can also lead to inconsistent power delivery and engine knocking.

3. How does a lagged turbo affect engine performance?

A lagged turbo can significantly affect engine performance as it disrupts the balance between fuel and air intake. This can result in a decrease in power and torque output, as well as an increase in fuel consumption. In severe cases, it can even cause engine damage.

4. What are some ways to reduce lag in turbo and exhaust systems?

One of the most effective ways to reduce lag in turbo and exhaust systems is by using an anti-lag system, which keeps the turbocharger spinning even when the engine is not under load, reducing the delay in response time. Upgrading to a larger turbocharger, improving the exhaust system design, and using high-quality oil can also help reduce lag.

5. Can lag in turbo and exhaust systems be completely eliminated?

No, lag in turbo and exhaust systems cannot be completely eliminated, as it is a natural byproduct of the turbocharger's design. However, it can be minimized through proper maintenance, upgrades, and the use of anti-lag systems. Ultimately, it is important to find a balance between reducing lag and maintaining the longevity of the engine and turbocharger.

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