Solving Refrigerator Problem: Calculating COP and Work

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to thermodynamics, specifically focusing on the operation of a heat pump and refrigerator. The original poster attempts to calculate the coefficient of performance (COP) for a Carnot refrigerator operating between specified temperatures and seeks clarification on the work done by the refrigerator engine.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster calculates the COP and questions the interpretation of work done by the system, particularly whether it is positive or negative. They also inquire about the additional information needed for selecting an appropriate heat pump for a building.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide clarification on the definitions of COP for refrigerators versus heat pumps. There is an ongoing exploration of what additional factors might be necessary for determining an appropriate heat pump, with a focus on the original poster's last question regarding the size of the building.

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Participants discuss the definitions of COP in different contexts and the implications of these definitions on the calculations being performed. There is a mention of the need for more information beyond just the size of the building, although specifics are not fully explored.

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The question reads...
A heat pump is a refrigerator that uses the inside of a building as a hot-temp reservoir in the winter and the outside of the building as a hot-temp reservoir in the summer. So...
For a carnot refrigerator engine operating between 25C and 40C in the summer, what is the coefficient of performance?And, for each joule of heat trasnfer from the cooler reservoir per cycle, how many joules of work are done by the refrigerator engine? Is this work positive or negative...and, what additional information is needed to determine an appropriate heat pump for a building?

Ok, so I figured out the COP...

COP=1/ [(Th/Tc)-1]

COP=1/ [(313k/298K)-1]

COP=19.9

But thenn I get confused on the second part
I know that

COP=Qc/W
W=Qc/COP
so is the value for Qc just 1 J? THat is the part i am having trouble with, and the work is negative correct? because it is work done by the system?

And, any thouhts on the last part?
 
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yes it was...but how about the last part...what else would I need to know? Just the size of the building?
 
sportsrules said:
yes it was...but how about the last part...what else would I need to know? Just the size of the building?
First of all, the co-efficient of performance for a heat pump is defined a little differently from the co-efficient of performance for a refrigerator. For a refrigerator:

[tex]cop = \frac{Q_c}{W}[/tex]

For a heat pump,

[tex]cop = \frac{Q_h}{W}[/tex]

So for a heat pump:

[tex]W = \frac{Q_h}{cop}[/tex]

That is all you need to determine how much work you consume in delivering 1 joule of heat. It has nothing to do with building size.

AM
 

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