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How to find angular velocity from torque?

by geekie weekie
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geekie weekie
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Sep6-13, 06:10 AM
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Hello,

If I apply force on a rigid cube, I can find the torque τ as:

τ = F x r

Now, from torque τ I can know about the axis of rotation but how much should I rotate the cube. How can I find the angular velocity ω from torque τ? Or is there any other way by which I can find how much the object rotates every second?

Thank you.
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What do the equations of angular motion tell you?
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What do the equations of angular motion tell you?
The angular velocity will tell me the velocity with which I should rotate the cube. Is there anyway I can find it with the help of torque?

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How to find angular velocity from torque?

If you study the equations of angular motion, you'll see that for a body rotating with a constant angular velocity, there is no net torque applied.

It's analogous to a spaceship travelling at a constant linear velocity: there is no net force being applied to the spaceship.

Force and torque accelerate objects from one velocity to another, so when these are applied, the velocity is always changing.
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So, how do I find the amount by which I should rotate an object every second if I know the torque of an object?
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You can calculate the amount of torque required to accelerate the object, say from rest to a certain angular velocity.

Your question is a bit unclear. If you want to determine what the angular velocity of a rotating object, that can be accomplished by using a stroboscope or timing light.
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You can calculate the amount of torque required to accelerate the object, say from rest to a certain angular velocity.

Your question is a bit unclear. If you want to determine what the angular velocity of a rotating object, that can be accomplished by using a stroboscope or timing light.
What I mean is I have an object lying in the 3D space. If I apply a certain force, how do I find the axis on which it should rotate and how much amount the object should rotate depending on the force applied and the duration of the force applied?
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Sep7-13, 09:35 AM
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Hello,

If I apply force on a rigid cube, I can find the torque τ as:

τ = F x r

Now, from torque τ I can know about the axis of rotation but how much should I rotate the cube. How can I find the angular velocity ω from torque τ? Or is there any other way by which I can find how much the object rotates every second?

Thank you.
we know
(torque) = (moment of inertia).(angular acceleration)


ζ=Iα

also
α = dω/dt


or

dω/dt= ζ/I


and at last

ω = (ζ)/(I) . dt

even if ζ is time dependent calculate ω,
[caution do not forget integration constant i.e. initial angular velocity]

as per your question


ζ=Fxr

put it in the integrating equation
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Sep7-13, 10:18 AM
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This is fine for a cube because the momentum of inertia of a cube, like a sphere, can be treated as a scalar. This is not true in general. The moment of inertia is tensorial in nature. If you don't know what that means, that's okay if this is for a lower level (freshman/sophomore level or below) physics class. Those lower level physics classes steer clear of cases where this tensorial nature rears its ugly head.
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Sep8-13, 01:10 AM
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This is fine for a cube because the momentum of inertia of a cube, like a sphere, can be treated as a scalar. This is not true in general. The moment of inertia is tensorial in nature. If you don't know what that means, that's okay if this is for a lower level (freshman/sophomore level or below) physics class. Those lower level physics classes steer clear of cases where this tensorial nature rears its ugly head.
when does this level come
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mann! you are awesome at vocab and physics
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Sep8-13, 05:44 AM
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It's the second or third year in college where one learns that moment of inertia is a tensor rather than a scalar. With regard to grammar, get in the habit of writing complete sentences. It's a rule of this site, and it's also a rule in life beyond college.
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Sep9-13, 04:25 AM
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it's the second or third year in college where one learns that moment of inertia is a tensor rather than a scalar. With regard to grammar, get in the habit of writing complete sentences. It's a rule of this site, and it's also a rule in life beyond college.
ohh yeah i was told this i just remember tenser told to me in 7th
like current is tensor quantity which is having some direction (lol! I dont know exactly but yeah i wanna ask is time also tensor quantity)
i when studied electricity at coaching at beginning of my 9th this year i opposed teacher by saying example of time but not confirm


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