The ratio of the gravitational force between electron and proton


by Richard Ros
Tags: electron, force, gravitational, proton, ratio
Richard Ros
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Sep10-13, 10:22 AM
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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Some of the earliest atomic models held that the orbital velocity of an electron in an atom could be correlated with the radius of the atom. If the radius of the hydrogen atom is 10^−10 m and the electrostatic force is responsible for the circular motion of the electron, what is the ratio of the gravitational force between electron and proton to the electrostatic force? How does this ratio change if the radius of the atom is doubled? Explain {Answer: Fg/Fe = 4.39 x 10-40}.


2. Relevant equations

fe = (1/4πε0)*(q^2/r^2)
fg = G m^2/r^2

3. The attempt at a solution
The answer says Fg/Fe, so I divided fg/fe to get (Gm^2)/((9*10^9)q^2). I tried every different way possible but cannot manage to get the correct answer. Can anyone help me solve this problem, I've been stuck for a long time. I preferred you show me how to do it and how you got to the final answer.
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Ampere
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Sep10-13, 10:28 AM
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What are you using as the masses? One of them would be the mass of a proton; the other would be the mass of an electron.
Richard Ros
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Sep10-13, 11:01 AM
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Maybe my formula is wrong . Do you think this formula would be correct? G*me*mp/(9*10^9 n m^2/c^2)*q1*q2?

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Sep10-13, 11:10 AM
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The ratio of the gravitational force between electron and proton


Oh never mind. I got the answer. How does the ratio change if radius if atom is doubled?
Ampere
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Sep10-13, 11:14 AM
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What do you think - does it look like the formula depends on the radius?
Richard Ros
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Sep10-13, 11:26 AM
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Since the radius isn't included in the formula. I'm assuming it doesn't matter?
Ampere
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Sep10-13, 11:28 AM
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Yep.
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Sep10-13, 11:51 AM
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Thanks a lot. I got more homework questions if you're willing to help. http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=709611


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