Why Does 3762 + 8271 Equal What It Does?

  • Thread starter Thread starter bblueblob
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Hard Puzzle
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a mathematical puzzle involving addition in a non-decimal base system. The original poster presents a series of equations, questioning the validity of the last equation, 3762 + 8271, in the context of the previous sums.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of performing addition in bases other than ten, with one suggesting that the base must be close to ten but less than ten. Questions arise regarding how to properly add numbers in different bases and the reasoning behind the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the nature of base systems and how they affect addition, while others express confusion about the concept of adding in different bases. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the understanding of base addition.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the concept of base systems and how they influence arithmetic operations, indicating a need for clarification on the rules governing addition in bases other than ten.

bblueblob
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
:confused: Can anyone help me figure out this very hard math puzzle? :confused:

2 + 2 = 4
4 + 4 = 8
142 + 468 = 621
3762 + 8271 = ?


PS. It is very confusing!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
bblueblob said:
:confused: Can anyone help me figure out this very hard math puzzle? :confused:

2 + 2 = 4
4 + 4 = 8
142 + 468 = 621
3762 + 8271 = ?


PS. It is very confusing!
It shouldn't be! :smile: The only way the first three lines can be true is that the base is not ten. But it has to be very close to ten as the third line is very close to the correct addition for base ten: i.e., in base ten, 142+468=610. Since the result obtained above is larger then the base ten result, the base for the problem must be less than ten. Secondly, the base must be odd! Note that the third line has even numbers in the units place and the sum is odd in the units place therefore the change in parity of the units place must come from the higher entries.

Your best bet is a base of nine. Check it out and it works fine. Do the third line. Two plus eight is ten; in base nine that means one and carry one. The second place is four plus six plus the carry is eleven; in base nine that means two and carry one. Finally, one plus four plus the carry is six. So the answer in base nine is 621. :biggrin:

The fourth line is given by two plus one is three; six plus seven is thirteen (in base nine that's four and carry one); seven plus two plus the carry is ten (in base nine that's one and carry one); finally three plus eight plus the carry is twelve (in base nine that's three plus a carry). Clearly, in base nine, 3762 + 8271 = 13143. :-p

It's a cute problem -- Dick
 
:smile: Thank You very much! :smile: undefined
 
oh wow didnt even see this thread.. i am confused on the bases though.. how do you add with a different base? i know you wrote it above but ihave no idea why you are counting like that.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
16
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
1K