Formula for combined spring constant.

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The discussion revolves around finding the formula for the combined spring constant of two springs connected in series. Participants are exploring the relationships between the spring constants and the displacements of the individual springs.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to derive a formula for the combined spring constant but expresses confusion over the units and the validity of their equation. Some participants question the meaning of the original formula and suggest focusing on the concept of tension in the springs.

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Participants are engaging with hints and exploring the relationships between the spring constants and tensions. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the concepts involved, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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There is an indication that the original poster may be struggling with the underlying principles of springs in series, particularly regarding how tension relates to the spring constants and displacements.

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Help - Formula for combined spring constant.

Hey, I was wondering if anyone can help me with the formula to calculate the combined spring constant of two springs stuck together (end to end).

This is as far as I've been able to figure it out lol, I can't wrap my head around this formula. The k1 and x1 are the values of the first spring, and k2 and x2 are the values of the second spring respectively.

F(series) = [(k1)*(k2)] * [(x1)+(x2)]
 
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Not sure what that formula means. (The units don't make sense!)

Hint: Realize that two springs in series must have the same tension.
 
Heh, yeah, that's why I need the help.

I need to know how to find the spring constant of two springs connected end to end. That botched equation up there is my attempt at it, so I was wondering if you guys knew it.
 
You should be able to figure it out with the hint I gave. Use your same notation:
[tex]T = k_1 x_1 = k_2 x_2[/tex]

But the tension is also given by:
[tex]T = k_{series} (x_1 + x_2)[/tex]

Play around with these and see what you can do.
 
nerfed,

Here's another hint. If you have a spring with spring constant k and you cut it in two, what are the spring constants (call them k1 and k2) of the two pieces?
 

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