Masaru Emoto - Water Experiments

SGT

You could ask for the guy to drink the blessed water.

paintergirl

Just to follow up- I can't give any eye-witness account of water changing form.
The spritualist spent so much time promoting himself that no one I know stayed late enough to see him bless the river...

Anyone surprised by this should send me 50 cents.

J77

Good job they called the film, "What the bleep".

Anyone with an ounce of sense wouldn't use the 'bleep' in amazement but it a, "Why did I spend time watching that rubbish" kind of way.

This film's even advertised as having something to do with quantum physics

Though, my gf did try to make me some 'happy' water by sticking post-it notes on the bottles

Shockingly absurd film, anyone seen the recent sequel?

PIT2

This week an article appeared in newscientist (preview)in which weird quantum effects of water were discussed. Masuru Emoto was also mentioned, aswell as homeopathy. They said that the idea that water might have a memory might not be such newage nonsense as people often claim. The article isnt available online but i read it in the shops and they used the word "epitaxi". Does anyone know what this is?

koantum

Why don't you go directly to Wikipedia or ask Google, which lists the Wikipedia article first?

koantum

Have a look at this entry in my blog koantum matters.

PIT2

The article spoke of epitaxi, not epitaxy and i dont know if they are the same. It said something like that properties of hydrogen could be passed on to eachother. There was also talk about the zero-point-vibrations between hydrogen atoms and the way they have been found to rotate in a particular way around specific segments of DNA.

Here is also one of the papers that was referred to:

koantum

Check Webster's online dictionary for epitaxy. The word "epitaxi" doesn't appear to exist in the English language except as part of "epitaxial" etc.

Tojen

What self-respecting scientist would call them water crystals? There's no such thing. They're ice crystals.

I'm surprised he gets any "happy" crystals. Most "living sentient" things don't take kindly to freezing solid, however well they've been treated.

Do we have to watch our language around water now? If water is a "living sentient" thing, do its rights need to be protected? Do we need to train water psychologists? Will there be TV Marathons of Hope for Water? ("Right now, somewhere in the world, water is being traumatized. Stop the madness by sending your donation to...") How about water pets for the kids? ("Dad, Aqua evaporated out of his bowl." "That's too bad, son. I guess he just wanted to be free.")

Better yet, if we put beer labels on bottles of water, we should have Perrier pilsner by morning.

"The Procedure of Water Crystal Experiment..." (step-by-step with photos)

http://www.hado.net/procedures.html

hypatia

or you could go to make-a-flake at http://snowflakes.lookandfeel.com/

J77

Nice

Highwaister

Caught your thread and thought you might be interested in this Article, abstract of which is below:

I found it at the following blog:

http://deanradin.blogspot.com/2006/1...-on-water.html

In my opinion, while flawed this sort of stuff is a start .We need much more of this sort of stuff, preferably without Emoto's involvement, before we can say that Emoto is talking nonsense. Need to bring scientific rigor open minds and less bias / prejudiceto to this whole mind/matter issue.

btw I have no association to the guy behing this blog / research. Just saw it and thought this would be a useful forum from which to get feedback. I have read emoto's book and also find it hard to take, but then so did the 'flat-earthers' etcEffects of distant intention on water crystals

Here is the quote and abstract from the blog:

"Some people, when faced with claims like Dr. Emoto's "intention affects the formation of water cystals," immediately dismiss it as nonsense. Others uncritically accept the claim because it sounds nice. My first reaction is to try to replicate the claim to see it for myself. I conducted such a test with Dr. Emoto, where he and his staff were kept blind as to which bottles of water had been treated. The paper reporting the experiment has just come out. Here's the abstract:

DOUBLE-BLIND TEST OF THE EFFECTS OF DISTANT INTENTION ON WATER CRYSTAL FORMATION

The hypothesis that water “treated” with intention can affect ice crystals formed from that water was pilot tested under double-blind conditions. A group of approximately 2,000 people in Tokyo focused positive intentions towards water samples located inside an electromagnetically shielded room in California. That group was unaware of similar water samples set aside in a different location as controls. Ice crystals formed from both sets of water samples were blindly identified and photographed by an analyst, and the resulting images were blindly assessed for aesthetic appeal by 100 independent judges. Results indicated that crystals from the treated water were given higher scores for aesthetic appeal than those from the control water (p = 0.001, one-tailed), lending support to the hypothesis.

Citation: Radin, D. I., Hayssen, G., Emoto, M., & Kizu, T. (2006). Explore, September/October 2006, Vol. 2, No. 5.

A triple-blind replication of this effect is presently underway.
posted by Dean Radin at 8:39 PM "



Comments Please!

Evo

A crackpot reviewing a crackpot!! This has already been posted in another thread. Radin is considered to be a nut himself.

PIT2

I havent seen anything that would imply Radin is a crackpot. What makes u say so?

Evo

Because it's well known that he's a sandwich short of a picnic.

"The new material includes interviews with a crackpot parapsychologist (Dean Radin, from the “Institute of Noetic Sciences”), and a crackpot journalist (Lynne McTaggart). It also includes some new animations featuring a cartoon character (Captain Quantum or some such). The first of these starts off with a not-bad depiction of the two-slit experiment before getting silly. The second is tacked on near the end and brings in a new exciting idea that wasn’t in the first film: Extra Dimensions! Captain Quantum liberates some poor fellow cartoon character who is trapped in 2d due to her fearfulness, bringing her to enlightenment by showing her that there is a third dimension. There’s mercifully little about string theory, mostly John Hagelin going on about how the superstring field is the field of consciousness."

http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/w...200602&paged=2

The "Institute of Noetic Sciences" is on the Quackwatch list of questionable organizations.

http://www.quackwatch.org/04Consumer...nonrecorg.html

PIT2

Someone on some blog writes he is a crackpot. It doesnt mean much. Obviously in the controversial field Radin does his work, people will respond in such a manner, especially those who hold different worldviews. But in the end, such accusations are meaningless.

Has he been exposed as a fraud, or anything like that?

setAI

there is a fine line between fringe science and crackpottery- Dean Radin is one of those that rides right on the edge of that boundary to crankville- but he does manage to maintain scientific integrity-