Why does the Earth rotate as it orbits the sun?

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The discussion centers around the reasons behind the Earth's continuous rotation as it orbits the sun, exploring theories related to angular momentum, inertia, and the formation of the Earth within the context of planetary motion. The conversation includes both conceptual and technical elements, with participants examining the underlying principles and questioning the explanations provided.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that conservation of angular momentum is a key reason for the Earth's continuous rotation.
  • Others argue that inertia plays a significant role, suggesting that the Earth has maintained its rotational state due to the lack of friction in space.
  • A participant mentions that the Earth formed in a rotating state due to the asymmetrical collapse of the original nebula, which resulted in a net spin.
  • One participant questions the deeper reasons behind the Earth's initial formation in a revolving state, seeking further explanation beyond the retention of that state.
  • Another participant discusses the impact of gravitational forces and tangential velocities on the formation of orbits, highlighting the complexities involved in the motion of celestial bodies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the role of angular momentum and inertia in explaining the Earth's rotation, but there remains uncertainty regarding the deeper reasons for its initial formation in a revolving state. Multiple competing views and questions persist without a consensus.

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Some claims depend on specific definitions of rotation and revolution, and the discussion includes unresolved questions about the nature of inertia and its energy. The conversation reflects a range of assumptions and interpretations regarding planetary motion.

scott_sieger
[SOLVED] round and round she goes

Hi guys/galls,

A quick question you may be able to help me with.

Has anyone got or seen firm theories that explain the Earth's continuuous rotation as it orbits the sun?
 
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Originally posted by scott_sieger
Hi guys/galls,

A quick question you may be able to help me with.

Has anyone got or seen firm theories that explain the Earth's continuuous rotation as it orbits the sun?

conservation of angular momentum.
 
F = m a = omega2*r = G*M*m/r^3*r

If you are interrested, I have coded a Matlab script which simulates planetary motion for input-able initial position and velocities (ignoring pertubations).
 
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Welcome to Physics Forums, Scott!

Inertia. (in addition to the above)
The Earth formed in a rotating/revolving state and has continued that way because nothing has stopped it (not much friction in space). As Janus indicated, conservation of angular momentum is the reason the Earth formed in a rotating/revolving state (the original nebula that formed our solar system came together in an asymmetrical fashion which resulted in a net spin & the velocity of the forming planets, with respect to their distance from the sun, determined the characteristics of their orbits).

p.s. Which did you mean...?
rotation = Earth going around its axis
revolution = Earth going around the sun
 
F = m a
In words, that's Newton's 1st: 'An object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force.'
 
Hi Guys,

I think you are all correct in what you are saying.

It's just that to say the a body retains it's revolving state doesn't explain whay it does retain it's state. Maybe I am looking a little deeper with my questions.

It was stated that the Earth formed in a rotational state and has stayed that way since...this is proabably quite correct...but I question why did it form in a revolving state in the first instance.

I'm sorry if I seem pedantic.

What is the energy of inertia?
 
Originally posted by scott_sieger
It's just that to say the a body retains it's revolving state doesn't explain whay it does retain it's state. Maybe I am looking a little deeper with my questions.

The very difference between a scientific law (description) and a theory (explanation)! Good job!

It was stated that the Earth formed in a rotational state and has stayed that way since...this is proabably quite correct...but I question why did it form in a revolving state in the first instance.

As I said...the asymmetic collapse of the original nebula resulted in a net spin. Gravity tended to pull the bits and pieces together toward a common center (or many common centers...the sun, planets, etc.). But with tangential velocities going on, particles don't fall straight to a center, they take spiraling paths (orbits). When impacting the center mass, the impactor delivers that energy to the center mass. Never mind dust particles...imagine a collision of a 1-km asteroid into a 5 km asteroid. It would be tough to bring the two together without imparting some kind of off-center movement.

And per the conservation of angular momentum, the more mass you bring toward center, the faster the whole system spins (like an ice skater bringing in his/her arms to spin faster).
 

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