Is The Elegant Universe DVD Accurate and Understandable?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the accuracy and comprehensibility of the "Elegant Universe" DVD, particularly in relation to Brian Greene's book on string theory. Participants share their experiences with both the documentary and the book, exploring themes of accessibility, depth of content, and personal understanding of complex concepts in physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants find the DVD to be overly simplified and lacking in depth compared to the book, suggesting it is designed for a general audience unfamiliar with the mathematics of string theory.
  • Others express that the book, while challenging, provides a better grasp of complex concepts like quantum mechanics and multiple dimensions, despite its own simplifications.
  • A few participants mention that the DVD was repetitive and did not offer significant new insights, leading to confusion rather than clarity.
  • Some participants appreciate the DVD for its introductory nature, indicating it may be beneficial for those new to the subject.
  • There are inquiries about recommendations for other books on string theory, indicating a desire for deeper understanding beyond the DVD and Greene's works.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express mixed views on the effectiveness of the DVD and the book. While some appreciate the introductory aspects of the DVD, others feel it does not adequately convey the complexities of string theory. There is no consensus on whether the DVD or book is superior in terms of educational value.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that both the DVD and the book simplify complex topics, which may lead to varying levels of understanding among viewers and readers. The discussion highlights the challenges of conveying advanced scientific concepts in accessible formats.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in string theory, those considering watching the "Elegant Universe" DVD, or readers seeking recommendations for literature on theoretical physics.

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What do you guys think about this (for those who have seen it)?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/

Is it fairly accurate, easy to understand (but not too simple)?
 
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I’ve read the book, or tried to on occasion. On Intuitive level it seems that there must be something to it. but I’m having a hard time understanding it on an intellectual level.

The pbs special just confused me even more. Brian Greene kept saying the same thing over and over, but never really went any where.
I was all set for some special insight into quantum mechanics but instead, I ended up more confused than enlightened. :confused:
 
I personally think its an extremely watered down version of the book, to gain the interest of the general public who don't understand the maths behind it.

Note that even the book, at the first place, is quite watered down version of the string theory. so therefore the program would be a watered-watered down version of the string theory. (or M-theory theory or just both.. :wink: )

I personally think that the program is not very.. informative. It gets a bit confusing with all the graphic pictures.
 
i'll have to try the book instead then, would you recommend any other books on string theory?
 
FYI- You can watch the entire 3 hour documentary online (it's free) at the Nova website. They also have some good reading information and pictures. ;)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/

Click "Watch the Program" on the right hand side.


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seiferseph said:
What do you guys think about this (for those who have seen it)?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/

Is it fairly accurate, easy to understand (but not too simple)?

I saw this after reading the book and was disappointed. It is way too simple. It does little more than touch on the concepts.

The book OTOH is fantastic. It is not math-oriented, which is good, because even though I'm good at math, QM math is way over my head. But the book does an incredible job of getting across the concepts in a graspable way.

That is not to say it is an easy read, or that getting these concepts is a piece of cake. Anyone venturing into this area is going to have to accept a lot of brain-bending - that's not the book's fault. The subject is simply to complex and too far from our day-to-day experience to fit into a single or a few sittings. It's an education. That's why it's got to be in book form.

It took me two reads to really get the concepts, but I have finally FINALLY begun to understand the bigger pictures like entanglement, string theory and even multiple dimensions. Greene's book was the only one that has ever explained multiple dimensions in a way that I really *got*.
 
thanks for the opinions, i just grabbed the dvd from the library (since it was available), but i'll have to get the book too. has anyone read Brian Greene's new book (from 2004)?
 
seiferseph said:
has anyone read Brian Greene's new book (from 2004)?
I am half way through it.
 
I liked the show (watched it all online) and it taught me a couple of new things. I am reading The Fabric Of The Universe right now and it is a great book.
 
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I have seen the PBS show online, I did enjoy it very much and I just got the book. However, I study molecular biology and when I see shows on the subject I do see very simplified models of the way things work and I also see new and clever ways of explaining it. So with that in mind, I would like to ask someone who has studied string theory, whether the book or show taught them anything that they had missed during their study of the subject or whether it just skipped over the concepts that are difficult to describe with some nonsensical analogy. Thanks.
 
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Dave: I suppose you were talking about "The Fabric of the Cosmos". I've read it, it's a good read I recommend it.
 
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Myriad209 said:
Dave: I suppose you were talking about "The Fabric of the Cosmos". I've read it, it's a good read I recommend it.

I have both of them, and have just started the Elegant Universe. the dvd was good, although a little repetitive.
 
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I had the pleasure of seeing the show when it aired on NOVA and thought it was generally good for people who have never heard much about the subject, although it really could have been better. It was repetitive at times.

The Elegant Universe was a fantastic book that I read a couple years ago and had a fun, challenging time trying to read while still in eighth grade (I'm in tenth now). The books goes in-depth into the details entailing string theory, its history, and its potential prospects without the reader having to worry about the highly complicated mathematics behind the theory. Brian Greene does well to help the reader along by giving well thought-out explanations, examples, and revisions. I found it to be a great book and recommend it to anyone interested in the field of theoretical physics.

Although I purchased The Fabric of the Cosmos, I haven't yet read it, but have heard that it is easier to read and comprehend than how The Elegant Universe was presented.

I also highly recommend all books by string physicist, Michio Kaku, including Parallel Worlds, Hyperspace, and Visions, among others.
 

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