Quantum Numbers for a couple of electrons Help needed

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The discussion revolves around determining the quantum numbers for electrons in specific electron configurations, specifically 4p2 and 6s2. Participants are exploring the quantum numbers {n, l, m, s} relevant to these configurations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the quantum numbers for the given electron configurations, discussing the values of n, l, m, and s. Questions arise regarding the possible values of m for the p subshell and the implications of filling order for orbitals.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the quantum numbers, with some participants providing corrections and clarifications regarding the values of m and the filling order of electrons. Multiple interpretations of the configurations are being discussed, particularly concerning the 4p2 and 6s2 setups.

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Participants are navigating the rules of quantum numbers, including the range of m values based on l, and the implications of electron filling order in subshells. There is a recognition of potential misunderstandings regarding the distribution of electrons in orbitals.

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Good evening scholars! i just had a couple of questions about QNs.

ok so the problem says:

Give the sets of {n, l, m, s} for the electrons in:
a) [tex]4p^2[/tex]
b) [tex]6s^2[/tex]

i just want to see if I'm on the right track. here's what i put for the first one (a):

n= 4
l= 1
m= -1, 0
s= +/- 1/2

thanks!
 
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Keep in mind that m is from -L TO +L
m would be -1, 0 , and +1
your spin is fine

what about the [itex]6s^2[/itex]
so obvious n =6,
p = ?? for the s shell what is the P value?
and thus what is the m value and s values correspondingly?
 
true, but i thought since it said that only the first two orbitals of the "p" subshell contain electrons, i thought that since the lowest level energy shells get filled up first, only the -1, and 0 would be the only possible orbitals where electrons are located. is that wrong of me? :frown:

as for the [tex]6^2[/tex], ok let's see:
n=6 like you said, l=0 and m=0 (because there's only one orbital in the "s" subshell so that means that it is in the 0 orbital - or middle i suppose?). s= plus or minus 1/2 and l-
 
mathzeroh said:
true, but i thought since it said that only the first two orbitals of the "p" subshell contain electrons, i thought that since the lowest level energy shells get filled up first, only the -1, and 0 would be the only possible orbitals where electrons are located. is that wrong of me? :frown:

as for the [tex]6^2[/tex], ok let's see:
n=6 like you said, l=0 and m=0 (because there's only one orbital in the "s" subshell so that means that it is in the 0 orbital - or middle i suppose?). s= plus or minus 1/2 and l-

WHOOPS SORRY

my mistake, for the 4p2 you are correct the p orbital would be filled up for the -1 and 0 part
however, since you fill in the positive spins in first both the electrons have positive spin
 

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