Difference between Cos and sin

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The discussion revolves around the differences between the cosine and sine functions, particularly in the context of waveform creation and their mathematical properties. Participants explore theoretical aspects, geometric interpretations, and potential misconceptions related to waveforms.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that cosine is a phase shift of sine, specifically that \(\sin \theta = \cos \left(\theta - \frac{\pi}{2}\right)\).
  • Others explain the definitions of sine and cosine in the context of a right triangle, relating sine to the opposite side over the hypotenuse and cosine to the adjacent side over the hypotenuse.
  • Several participants describe the relationship of sine and cosine to the unit circle, indicating that cosine corresponds to the x-coordinate and sine to the y-coordinate.
  • One participant humorously states that the difference between cos(x) and sin(x) is \(|\cos(x) - \sin(x)|\), but clarifies it as a joke.
  • There is confusion regarding the claim that the sine function creates a sawtooth appearance, with one participant questioning this assertion and suggesting that it may involve Fourier series or transforms.
  • Another participant mentions that cosine is an even function and sine is an odd function, highlighting their mathematical properties.
  • Some participants suggest that visual aids or external resources may be necessary for a clearer understanding of the concepts discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between sine, cosine, and waveform characteristics, particularly regarding the sawtooth appearance. There is no consensus on the explanation for this phenomenon, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate that the discussion may lack clarity regarding the generation of sawtooth waves and the role of Fourier transforms, suggesting that further exploration of these topics may be necessary.

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Can anyone tell me the difference btween cos and sin, and tell me when creating waveform why the sin function creates a sawtooth appearance and the cos function does. Any help would be appreiciated. :!) :!)
 
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Cosine is a phase shift of sine (and visa-versa). In other words,

[tex]\sin \theta = \cos \left(\theta - \frac{\pi}{2}\right)[/tex]

just a translation to the right by [itex]\pi / 2[/itex].
 
Given a right triangle and a non-right angle, the sine of that angle is equal to the length of the side facing the angle over the length of the hypotenuse. The cosine of the said angle is equal to the length of the side adjacent to the angle over the length of the hypotenuse.

A cosine wave is simply a sine wave that is shifted to the right by pi/2.

It would be much easier to explain if I can draw pictures. Your best chance is to google it or to check out MathWorld (http://mathworld.wolfram.com).
 
for a point on the unit circle, cos is the x coordinate and sin is the y coordinate. I.e. one is the shadow of the radius on the x-axis and the other the shadow of the radius on the y axis. Due to the symmetry of the circle as you go around the length of the shadow of the radius on the x-axis or on the y-axis look essentially the same, just out of phase.
 
mathwonk said:
for a point on the unit circle, cos is the x coordinate and sin is the y coordinate. I.e. one is the shadow of the radius on the x-axis and the other the shadow of the radius on the y axis. Due to the symmetry of the circle as you go around the length of the shadow of the radius on the x-axis or on the y-axis look essentially the same, just out of phase.

And the y-axis is perpendicular (90 degrees; pi/2 radians) to the x-axis. Which is why:

Data said:
Cosine is a phase shift of sine (and visa-versa). In other words,

[tex]\sin \theta = \cos \left(\theta - \frac{\pi}{2}\right)[/tex]

just a translation to the right by .
 
The "difference" between cos(x) and sin(x) is |cos(x) - sin(x)|.






That was a joke.






Really.
 
tiffney said:
when creating waveform why the sin function creates a sawtooth appearance and the cos function does.

Eh, what? :confused:
 
I suggest google, it's not the easiest thing to explain
 
several people have explained it here already :-p
 
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Not his sawtooth conjecture, which beats me.
 
  • #11
The only thing that connects sawteeth & sin/cos is Fourier series/transform...

Daniel.
 
  • #12
An important property of sin(x) and cos(x) is that
cos(x) is an "even function of x" [that is, cos(-x)=cos(x)] and
sin(x) is an "odd function of x" [that is, sin(-x)=-sin(x)].
 
  • #13
I'm thinkin' something's missing here.

No cos or sin function, at least involving perhaps your basic constant coefficients, generates a sawtooth wave, does it? It should generate a sine wave and another wave 90 degrees out of phase. Perhaps his problem involves some Fourier or other transfoms as Dexter already suggested?
 

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