Leading Strand: Priming, Placement, and Primers

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The discussion revolves around the mechanisms of the leading strand during DNA replication, including the placement of RNA primers and the comparison of primer frequency between leading and lagging strands in eukaryotic DNA. Additionally, there is a side discussion on the existence of double-stranded RNA (dsRNA) and its implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants discuss the speed of DNA polymerase in eukaryotes and bacteria, noting a range of 500 to 5000 base pairs per minute for eukaryotes and up to 1,000,000 for bacteria.
  • There is a debate regarding the source of movement during DNA replication, with some suggesting that the replisome moves along the DNA, while others propose that the DNA is pushed through a stationary replisome.
  • Participants mention that RNA primers appear to be placed at fairly regular intervals, though the exact placement may seem random.
  • Regarding the number of primers, it is noted that in E. coli, there is approximately one primer per 1000 base pairs, while in eukaryotes, the frequency is around one primer every 200 base pairs due to shorter Okazaki fragments.
  • There is a side discussion on the possibility of double-stranded RNA, with some participants confirming its existence in certain viruses and discussing its role in gene regulation and immune response.

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Participants express varying views on the mechanisms of leading strand replication and the placement of RNA primers, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain. The discussion on double-stranded RNA also shows differing opinions on its implications and functions.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the regularity of primer placement and the implications of dsRNA without resolving the complexities of these topics.

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Question: How does the leading strand work? (I know that it moves in the right direction...i.e. relatively fast) Where is the RNA primer placed on it (i.e. is it just an arbitrary point)? On eukaryotic DNA, about how many total primers will there be on the leading strand relative to the lagging strand?

(This is not a homework question. I have a quiz tomorrow, and i approached these issues while studying)
 
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student007 said:
Question: How does the leading strand work? (I know that it moves in the right direction...i.e. relatively fast)

the rate for eukaryotes DNA polymerase is about 500 to 5000 base pairs per minute and for bacteria it can reach 1,000,000 base pairs per minute.

The source of the movement is debate. It is usually accepted that polymerase and other enzymes, which as a group is called the replisome, are moving along the DNA strand. However, there is evidence in bacteria that there is a central non moving replisome and that the DNA is pushed through the replisome.

student007 said:
Where is the RNA primer placed on it (i.e. is it just an arbitrary point)?

It appears to be random but primers are synthesised at a fairly regular interval.

student007 said:
On eukaryotic DNA, about how many total primers will there be on the leading strand relative to the lagging strand?

there will be a lot. In E. coli, there 1 primer per 1000 base pairs. In eukaryotes, the Okazaki fragments are shorter so the frequency would be lower,it is around 1 every 200 base pair. Just do to math, the human genome has 6 billion base pair, Encephalitozoon cuniculi has the smallest genome with 2,9 million base pair and yeast has 12,5 million base pair. Some amphibiands and some plants can have over 100 billion base pair genome.
 
Thanx...one other thing...just wondering...is it EVER possible to have a double-stranded RNA molecule
 
Only some virusses have dsRNA, the human body has Toll-like receptors that recognize dsRNA (TLR-3) and induces the innate immune response to break down cells expressing it.
 
Yes, it is possible to have double-stranded (ds) RNA; however, the dsRNA are quickly degraded in the cell and dsRNA can be used to regulate gene expression. Some viruses have dsRNA genome. It has been sugested that the machinery that degraded dsRNA has evolved to protect the cell against dsRNA viruses.
 
Interestingly you can knock-down genes in mammals by injecting dsRNA: the normal RNA for that transcript will be down-regulated.
 

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