Can Two Parallel Lines Actually Meet?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of parallel lines and whether they can meet, exploring different geometrical frameworks such as Euclidean and projective geometry. Participants examine the implications of these geometries on the definition and behavior of parallel lines.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants believe that proofs exist showing that parallel lines can meet in certain geometries, particularly projective geometry.
  • Others assert that in Euclidean geometry, parallel lines never intersect, as stated in one of Euclid's postulates, but acknowledge that this is not a necessary postulate.
  • A participant challenges the notion that there are geometries where parallel lines intersect, arguing that by definition, parallel lines do not intersect, and instead, there are geometries where no parallel lines exist.
  • Another participant notes that in projective geometry, lines are said to intersect at a point at infinity.
  • It is mentioned that in projective geometry, there are no parallel lines since all lines intersect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition and behavior of parallel lines across various geometrical frameworks, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on definitions of parallel lines and the implications of different geometrical systems, but does not resolve the nuances involved.

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Hello.

I believe that there are proofs showing that two parallel lines meet at a certain point... but this cannot be proven through the concepts of a
simple geometry... some say that it can be proved by projective geometry.

Are there sites that show these proof?
 
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Parallel lines never intersect... in a Euclidean geometry. This is actually one of Euclid's postulates. It is not a necessary postulate, though, and you can find other geometries where parallel lines do intersect.

Here's some information:

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ParallelPostulate.html
 
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Parallel lines never intersect... in a Euclidean geometry. This is actually one of Euclid's postulates. It is not a necessary postulate, though, and you can find other geometries where parallel lines do intersect.

Here's some information:

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ParallelPostulate.html


I think that's misleading. It is not that there exist geometries in which "parallel lines do intersect". Parallel lines, by definition, do not intersect. What is true is that there exist geometries (elliptic geometry) in which there are no parallel lines.
 
When you work in projective geometry, isn't it so that 2 lines are said to intersect at a point at infinity?
 
Yes, but still there are no *parallel* lines in projective geometry since all lines interesect.
 
fair enough~
 

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