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The discussion revolves around a problem involving 5-digit numbers, specifically those between 10,000 and 99,999 inclusive. Participants are exploring how many such numbers exist, how many consist of distinct digits, and how many contain at least one odd digit.

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  • Participants discuss the total count of 5-digit numbers and the implications of distinct digits. There is uncertainty about how to select distinct digits and whether to consider the entire range or specific subsets. Some participants are attempting to derive counts based on choices for each digit while questioning the assumptions behind their selections.

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Some participants have begun to articulate their reasoning and calculations, particularly regarding the distinct digits and the inclusion of odd digits. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and approaches, with hints provided but no consensus reached on the final methods.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement for distinct digits and the definitions of odd and even digits. The discussion reflects a mix of initial attempts and clarifications on how to approach the problem without providing complete solutions.

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A 5 digit number is one between 10,000 and 99,999 inclusive
1. How many 5 digits numbers are therE?
2. HOW MANY CONSISTOF 5 DISTINCT DIGITS?
3. hOW MANY 5 DIGIT NUMBERS CONTAIN AT LEAST ONE ODD DIGIT? :rolleyes:
 
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You don't need to shout. :rolleyes:

So, what have you tried?
 
oops sorry..(LOL)
well first i did..
10,000-99,999 +1 =90000 thast question 1

I am stuck with question 2 and 3.. I want to divide by 5 or subtract.. but Iam warped//..
 
tae3001 said:
A 5 digit number is one between 10,000 and 99,999 inclusive
1. How many 5 digits numbers are therE?
2. HOW MANY CONSISTOF 5 DISTINCT DIGITS?
3. hOW MANY 5 DIGIT NUMBERS CONTAIN AT LEAST ONE ODD DIGIT? :rolleyes:
(Note: In the following discussion, "Digit #1" is the LEFTMOST digit.)
SOLUTION HINTS:
2) → For 5 distinct digits, you have 9 choices for the 1st digit, 9 for the 2nd, 8 for the 3rd, 7 for the 4th, and 6 for the 5th. ⇒ ⇒ {Total Number}={? x ? x ? x ? x ?}.
3) → The numbers having at least 1 odd digit would be those left over after removing numbers having all even digits. In other words, {90,000 - (?)}. For the number having all 5 even digits, remember that digit #1 can be any of {2, 4, 6, or 8 ⇒ 4 choices}, and digits #2 thru #5 can be any of {0, 2, 4, 6, or 8 ⇒ 5 choices}.


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i am starting to see it.. but where would I select the distinct digits?? from 90,000 or would i choose
89999,89998,89997 and so on?
or would I take them from 10,000 and 99,999?
 
tae3001 said:
i am starting to see it.. but where would I select the distinct digits?? from 90,000 or would i choose
89999,89998,89997 and so on?
or would I take them from 10,000 and 99,999?
(In the following discussion, "Digit #1" is the Leftmost digit.)

Problem #2:
Digit #1 (Leftmost) is chosen from the set {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ⇒ 9 choices}, and Digits #2 thru #5 are chosen from the set {0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ⇒ 10 choices}, with the provision that each digit is distinct (different).
Thus, Digit #1 has 9 choices, Digit #2 has 9 choices {=(10 - 1) after eliminating #1's choice}, Digit #3 has 8 choices {=(10 - 2) after eliminating #1's & #2's choices}, Digit #4 has 7 choices {=(10 - 3) after eliminating #1's, #2's, & #3's choices}, and Digit #5 has 6 choices {=(10 - 4) after eliminating #1's, #2's, #3's, & #4's choices}.
{Total # of Numbers from 10000 to 99999 with All Distinct Digits} =
= (9)x(9)x(8)x(7)x(6) = (27216)

Problem #3:
The numbers having at least 1 odd digit would be those left over after removing numbers having all even digits. In other words, {90,000 - (# with All Even Digits)}. For the number having all 5 even digits, Digit #1 can be any of {2, 4, 6, or 8 ⇒ 4 choices}, and Digits #2 thru #5 can be any of {0, 2, 4, 6, or 8 ⇒ 5 choices}.
{Total # of Numbers from 10000 to 99999, inclusive, with At Least 1 Odd Digit} =
= 90000 - {(4)x(5)x(5)x(5)x(5)} = (87500)


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