The quantum computer: computer of the future

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The discussion revolves around the concept of quantum computers, particularly their potential to crack encryption methods like RSA, the current state of their development, and the theoretical underpinnings of how they operate. Participants explore both the practical challenges and the theoretical advantages of quantum computing.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention that quantum computers are being developed to crack RSA encryption, which relies on one-way arithmetic.
  • One participant notes that the largest quantum computer currently has about 8 qubits, suggesting this is insufficient for practical applications.
  • Another participant argues that quantum computers can calculate infinite possibilities simultaneously, which contributes to their speed, but acknowledges that they can only perform certain operations faster than classical computers.
  • There is a contention regarding the nature of qubits, with one participant asserting that qubits can exist in superpositions of states, while another emphasizes that they ultimately represent binary states of 1 and 0.
  • Some participants express concerns about the practical difficulties of maintaining entangled states and the implications of decoherence on quantum computing.
  • A participant shares personal experiences related to learning about quantum computers while doing physics homework, highlighting the complexities involved in understanding the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the capabilities and practical applications of quantum computers, with no consensus reached on their effectiveness or the implications of their theoretical foundations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the unclear practical applications of current quantum computers, the dependence on definitions of qubits and entanglement, and unresolved issues regarding the speed of quantum operations compared to classical computing.

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Has anyone heard of RSA? Its the cipher used by the NSA, CIA and probably most other government agencies. Its a cipher that uses one way arithimetic(easy to do almost impossible to undo). Anyway a type of computer is being developed to crack this form cipher called the Quantum computer and I was interested if anyone had any idea how a quantum computer works and how for they are in developing them.
 
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Last I heard the largest quantum computer only had about 8-bits which means that it has less calculating power than your fingers. Yes I do have a rough idea of te theory that allows quantum computing to work and it's important to note that a quantum computer can only perform some operations, for example the factorisaton of a very large numebr into it's prime factors, in a shorter time than a normal computer.


There are so many diffficulties associated with maintaining many particle entangled systems that it is not clear yet if quantum computing is practical.
 
A Quantum computer works not on the same basics of a Turing machine, so even those 8 bits are faster than you think. Quantum computers work because they routinely calculate infinite possibilities to arrive at a solution. *That's* why it's so fast. The reason it can handle infinitely large amounts of numbers is because the photon that hits the atom, turning it so that it represents a 1 or 0 in a normal computer, bounces off with an infinite number of possible directions, meaning the atom has an infinite number of possible orienatations. The possible states of an array are about 2 followed by 1,000 zeroes, or larger than the number of atoms in the known universe.
 
Originally posted by Beren
A Quantum computer works not on the same basics of a Turing machine, so even those 8 bits are faster than you think. Quantum computers work because they routinely calculate infinite possibilities to arrive at a solution. *That's* why it's so fast. The reason it can handle infinitely large amounts of numbers is because the photon that hits the atom, turning it so that it represents a 1 or 0 in a normal computer, bounces off with an infinite number of possible directions, meaning the atom has an infinite number of possible orienatations. The possible states of an array are about 2 followed by 1,000 zeroes, or larger than the number of atoms in the known universe.

No, 8 qubits is still alsost completely worthless for pratical appliactions.

Your wrong about how a quantum computer works, a qubit just like a normal bit in a classical computer can only have two states: 1 and 0, the difference is that it may be in a suppostion of the 1 and 0 states.

An important the thing missed by most people about quantum computers is that due to the fact that you have to collapse the entangled state in order to take a measurement, they perform most operations at the same speed as a classical computer and it's only a few operations (like the factorisations of a large number into it's primes) that it can erform faster than a normal computer.
 
Interestingly, (or not interestingly, depending on your point of view), it was quantum computers that led me here today. I was doing my physics homework and I remembered an article in The New Scientist that I read about quantum computers. So I decided to learn more about them, what I found was easy to understand but then all kinds of complications like decoherence and entanglement came in, so I thought I'd leave it alone and come back to it when I have a Masters.

Anyway, these are the pages I had a look at, see if the're any good for what you want:

http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~westside/quantum-intro.html
http://www.theory.caltech.edu/~quic/errors.html
http://216.109.117.135/search/cache...zgo8J:www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~jwallace/simtable.htm
 
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