Long-lost near-Earth asteroid spotted: New Scientist

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The discussion centers around the recent re-discovery of a large near-Earth asteroid, potentially hazardous, that had been missing for 66 years. Participants explore its upcoming fly-by and implications for planetary defense, as well as the nature of the asteroid itself, including theories about its possible binary status.

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  • Some participants express concern about the asteroid's proximity during its fly-by, with one noting that 7 million kilometers feels too close for comfort.
  • There is a discussion about the asteroid Hermes, with some suggesting it may not perfectly match the known orbit of Hermes, but others believe it is likely the same object.
  • One participant humorously references a cartoon to illustrate the anxiety surrounding asteroid observations and potential threats.
  • Another participant proposes various strategies for deflecting or altering the asteroid's path, including nuclear options, direct impacts, and utilizing the Yarkovsky effect.
  • A later post introduces the idea that Hermes may actually be a binary asteroid system, based on new radar observations, which adds complexity to the discussion.
  • Some participants downplay the threat, asserting that the distance of 7 million kilometers is safe and not a direct threat to Earth.

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Participants exhibit a mix of concern and reassurance regarding the asteroid's proximity, with no consensus on the level of threat it poses. There are competing views on the identity of the asteroid and its potential binary nature, leaving the discussion unresolved.

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Participants reference various strategies for asteroid deflection without reaching a conclusion on their feasibility or effectiveness. The discussion also highlights uncertainty regarding the asteroid's classification and orbit.

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Individuals interested in astronomy, planetary defense, and the dynamics of near-Earth objects may find this discussion relevant.

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A large and potentially hazardous asteroid that went missing for almost 66 years ago was re-discovered by astronomers on Wednesday morning. The good news is that its next fly-by, on 4 November, will miss the Earth by a relatively comfortable seven million kilometres.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994285
 
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This is going to happen a little over two weeks from now (17days).
7 million kilometers is 4,349,590 miles. Hermes is 1-2 kilometers in diameter, roughly 5/8 to 1 1/4 miles. They're saying this one doesn't match the Hermes orbit perfectly, but they're pretty sure it's Hermes.

Anyway 4.35 million miles is too close for my taste. Why can't these rogue celestial wanderers stay out of the solar system altogether?
 
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
This is going to happen a little over two weeks from now (17days).
7 million kilometers is 4,349,590 miles. Hermes is 1-2 kilometers in diameter, roughly 5/8 to 1 1/4 miles. They're saying this one doesn't match the Hermes orbit perfectly, but they're pretty sure it's Hermes.

Anyway 4.35 million miles is too close for my taste. Why can't these rogue celestial wanderers stay out of the solar system altogether?

This is the deep, dark secret of Chicken Little: He is an astronomer.

For years I have had a Ziggy cartoon posted in my office. First we see an astronomical observatory with its telescope pointed towards the sky. Five scientists are running from the building; screaming and panicking due to [by implication] what was just seen in the scope. Ziggy looks at the reader with resignation and says: Now what?
 
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Now what?

The best bet is to either deflect it (change its path) or change its velocity (so it doesn't appear at the same place as the Earth at the same time).

Strategies: (Robert Burnham, Astronomy Magazine, Dec 02)
Nuke it – explosion next to or just below surface to vaporize a portion…offgases change the orbit
Smack it – direct impact with fast, massive, inert object to deflect its course
Warm it/cool it – Yarkovsky effect to generate thrust*
Cook it – giant mylar mirror to focus sunlight…jetting vapor alters the orbit

* - or dump lots of reflective/dark material on it (chalk/ice or charcoal/soot) (D. Chandler, Astronomy Magazine, Dec 02)
 
Mystery Asteroid, Hermes, May Have a Partner

Astronomers have apparently discovered an interesting twist to one of the greatest asteroid mysteries of all time. Hermes, a space rock lost to science for 66 years and recently rediscovered, could actually be a pair of orbiting asteroids, new radar observations suggest.

And a strange pair, indeed.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/hermes_binary_031021.html
 
Great, they're multiplying.
 
at its not coming directly towards earth.....Seven million kilometres is a safe distance!
 

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