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Can you identify these minerals?

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z.js
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Feb11-14, 12:32 AM
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Can you help me identify this mineral and rock? I can't.
I think the mineral is quartz.
I tried the UV light, but it didn't work.
(Mebbe it's something precious!)
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Feb11-14, 01:13 AM
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I doubt we can tell exactly from the picture.
What do you mean by "UV light ... didn't work"?
How did you employ the UV light?
What were you expecting?
What happened?

It looks like quartz or agate embedded in something igneous... but really just some white stuff in some grey stuff.

Have you shown it to a geologist? A local rockhound?
daqddyo1
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Feb11-14, 07:58 AM
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At first glance, this slightly blurry photo suggests your rock is a piece of tar filled with fine gravel.

How hard is this sample? (Can you scratch it with a knife?, with your finger nail?, etc.)
How dense is it? Does it feel like it might be metal?
Does it respond to a magnet?

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Feb11-14, 09:42 AM
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Can you identify these minerals?

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Can you help me identify this mineral and rock? I can't.
I think the mineral is quartz.
I tried the UV light, but it didn't work.
(Mebbe it's something precious!)
Hi, I think at first sight the black rock can to be magmatic rock, very hard (isn't?). Quartz, right! And perahps a metal meet. At see later and good chance!
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Feb11-14, 01:23 PM
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It looks like tar and gravel to me.
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Feb11-14, 11:08 PM
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I doubt we can tell exactly from the picture.
What do you mean by "UV light ... didn't work"?
How did you employ the UV light?
What were you expecting?
What happened?

It looks like quartz or agate embedded in something igneous... but really just some white stuff in some grey stuff.

Have you shown it to a geologist? A local rockhound?
I expect the OP was checking for fluorescence and phosphorescence of certain minerals.
http://www.galleries.com/Fluorescent_Minerals

The picture looks like some nest cleaning aggomeration from some burrowing animal of years gone past. Difficult to tell from the fuzzy picture.
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Feb12-14, 12:03 AM
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I expect the OP was checking for fluorescence and phosphorescence of certain minerals.
Probably - still, nice not to have to guess and I like to encourage more scientific reporting in scientific sites ;)

he picture looks like some nest cleaning aggomeration from some burrowing animal of years gone past.
That hadn't occurred to me...

I think the bottom line is that there is not enough data.
Short answer: "no".
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Feb12-14, 12:59 AM
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I have a lot of information about rocks (whether they're minerals or not) because I have played with them and even swallowed a lot of them when I was small.
At what place did you find it? A hillock? Roadside? Riverside?
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Feb12-14, 11:49 PM
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It was found at a rocky beach which was also a fossil site. (Flat Rocks, Inverloch, Australia)
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Feb13-14, 12:34 AM
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Did you check for the three things prescribed by daqddyo1?
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Feb13-14, 12:42 AM
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After that heat a 'piece' of the 'bottom' part of the stone (bottom in the picture, a thick black layer) on your stove without allowing the flames to lick it. Does it melt?
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Feb17-14, 02:52 AM
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The black stuff at the bottom scratched metal. It has a density of about 2.8 g/cm3, and it is not attracted by a magnet. I will see if it melts when I heat it. How hot is a normal alcohol burner?
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Feb18-14, 08:13 AM
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How hot is a normal alcohol burner?
Hot enough to know if it makes a good rock or not! Anyway let's see if it melts.
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The black stuff at the bottom scratched metal. It has a density of about 2.8 g/cm3, and it is not attracted by a magnet. I will see if it melts when I heat it. How hot is a normal alcohol burner?
There are many metals - lead, tin, copper, iron, steel.
You need the hardness of the rock based on a scale to properly identify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_sc...neral_hardness
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Feb19-14, 03:05 PM
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please make a sharper shot? It can also be some other sedimentary matirx than tar and gravel
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Feb23-14, 11:54 PM
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There are many metals - lead, tin, copper, iron, steel.
You need the hardness of the rock based on a scale to properly identify.
The black stuff scratched a steel knife.
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Feb24-14, 05:02 AM
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The black stuff scratched a steel knife.
Then don't go to heat it.
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Feb24-14, 06:00 AM
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Go raid a chem lab:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualita...ganic_analysis
(I miss flame tests )


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