Motivations for eigenvalues/vectors

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The discussion revolves around the motivations for using eigenvalues and eigenvectors, particularly in the context of matrix transformations and changing coordinate systems. Participants explore the implications of expressing a matrix in terms of its eigenvalues and eigenvectors, as well as the bases involved in these transformations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that eigenvalues and eigenvectors are useful for computing powers of a matrix, specifically through the expression A^k = C * D^k * C^-1.
  • Another participant confirms that A is the matrix of a transformation with respect to some basis B, while D represents the same transformation with respect to the eigenbasis B'.
  • A different participant notes that if only the matrix is given, the corresponding "given basis" is the standard basis, and the transformation can be expressed in terms of eigenvectors.
  • One participant expresses frustration that textbooks do not clarify which basis is being referenced in these discussions.
  • Another participant argues that the transformation is independent of the specific basis used for matrix A, suggesting that this is why textbooks may not specify it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the utility of eigenvalues and eigenvectors in matrix transformations, but there is some disagreement regarding the necessity of specifying the original basis and the implications of changing bases.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of the bases involved and the implications of changing from one basis to another. The discussion does not clarify the specific conditions under which the transformation is applied.

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Hi,

I understand one of the motivations for eigenvalues/vectors is when you need
to compute A^k * x. So we like to write,

A = C*D*C^-1 and then A^k = C * D^k * C^-1, and D^k is trivial to compute.

My professor said C^-1 and C can be though of as change of coordinate
matrices. But from which basis? For example, C^-1 would take me from
*some* basis to the basis of eigenvectors. But what is this *some* basis?

Is it assumed that everything is coordinitized relative to some basis B in
R^n. And then I want to change to the basis of eigenvectors B'?
 
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Short answer: Yes.

A is the matrix of a transformation wrt some basis B. D is the matrix of the same transformation wrt the eigenbasis B'. [itex]C^{-1}[/itex] takes vectors from B to B', and C takes vectors back from B' to B.
 
A general linear transformation can be written as a matrix in a given basis. If all you are given is the matrix, then the corresponding "given basis" is <1, 0,...>, <0,1,...> , etc. The basis you are changing to is the basis consisting of the eigenvectors for the matrix A.

(A matrix can be diagonalized if and only if there exist a basis consisting entirely of eigenvectors of the matrix.)
 
Thanks for clearing that up. I wish both of my linear algebra textbooks made it clear which basis we were in.
 
But it obviously goes from whatever basis A is written with respect to, and it doesn't matter what that basis is, which is why the book didn't state it.
 

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