Is 0=x \sec ^2 x-5 a Function? A Look at Plotting and Simplifying

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The discussion revolves around the equation 0=x sec²x-5 and its relationship to the expression 0=cos²x/x-1/5. Participants are exploring whether these expressions represent the same function and examining the implications of their equivalence in terms of graphing and function behavior.

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  • Participants discuss the equivalence of the two equations and question why their graphs differ despite having the same roots. There is an exploration of the nature of functions versus equations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the differences between the two expressions and questioning the assumptions about their graphical representations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of functions and equations, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating the distinction between equations and functions, considering how this affects their graphical representations. There is an emphasis on the roots of the equations rather than their overall behavior across all values of x.

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[tex]0=\frac{cos^2x}{x}-\frac{1}{5}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{5}=\frac{\cos x \cos x}{x}[/tex]

[tex]5=\frac{x}{\cos x \cos x}[/tex]

[tex]0=x \sec ^2 x-5[/tex]

is this true? when I plot this, it doesn't give me the same function
 
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I'm pretty confident that is true, but this isn't a function. You can say that [tex]0=\frac{cos^2x}{x}-\frac{1}{5}[/tex] implies and is implied by [tex]0=x \sec ^2 x-5[/tex], but that does not mean the graph of [tex]y=\frac{cos^2x}{x}-\frac{1}{5}[/tex] will be the same as the graph of [tex]y=x \sec ^2 x-5[/tex]. The two graphs cross the x-axis at the same points, i.e. they have the same roots, but otherwise they are different.
 
why are they different graphs?
 
Why should they be? You did not start with a "function"- you started with an equation. Yes, it is true that [tex]0=\frac{cos^2x}{x}-\frac{1}{5}[/tex]
is equivalent to [tex]0=x \sec ^2 x-5[/tex], but if you write functions [tex]f(x)=x \sec ^2 x-5[/tex] and [tex]g(x)=\frac{cos^2x}{x}-\frac{1}{5}[/tex], then you are only saying f(x)= 0 and g(x)= 0 have the same roots. It says nothing about other values of x.

It is also true that x2- 1= 0 is equivalent to 1- x2= 0. Do think that means 1- x2= x2- 1 for all x?
 

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